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Re: SE-AUTO
localhosed ("localhosed" <localhosed@...>) on June 6, 2012
This is from the 18 step guide, in step 12. “An ne pa pote memo plu verba s= eqe-co an pa merka u verba-bibli.” The guide translates that as : “He coul= dn’t remember the words so he bought a dictionary.”
But according to my un= derstanding of your explanation of ‘an’ usage, ‘an’ in this sentence will/c= ould refer to someone else.
Posi u basi; u-ci info translati so, kausa u b= uta pro dice. The reason the guide translates it this way, I guess may be a= consequence of intended spoken word, because..
“An ne pa pote memo plu ve= rba. Seqe-co, an pa merka u verba bibli.” ..would be (possibly) valid Glosa= . In other words, the second ‘an’ here would refer to the same man instead = of someone else, because a new sentence started. Unless I misunderstand usa= ge of the period mark. The only difference in speech would be a pause. Plea= se let me know if I incorrectly used Glosa in any part of this sentence. Is= “Seqe-co, […]” valid?
Though the second ‘an’ in these separate sentence= s could also refer to someone else, if I were to treat Glosa like English, = pronouns sometimes refer to subjects outside of the sentence they are in. I= t could be said the same way in english or a variety of languages.
My fir= st thought about that is that it can be a disorganizing practice, but I don= ‘t know, really. There isn’t enough context to determine who the second ‘an= ‘ is, unless there was only one person in sight or in mind, or instead, two= or more men who happen to be involved in teaching with books, or holding d= ictionaries.
Anti-co, mi fu akorda ko tu pre explika. However, I will matc= h/uphold/consent/accord with your previous explanation.
— In glosalist@y= ahoogroups.com, Gary Miller gmillernd@... wrote:
Localhosed-
SE = is a pronoun. -> SE es u vice-verba.
In Ian’s story -> In stori de= Ian
U BOVI PA CIDE SE
would mean the bull killed himself.
T= his would change the moral of the story. -> U-ci fu muta u stori sko.
= U BOVI PA CIDE AN
would mean the bull killed the lion (not himself).=
(I was wondering if the bull killed himself to avoid being eaten by t= he lion.) -> (Mi pa qestio se, qe u bovi pa cide se tende evita gene ge-v= ora per u leo.)
SE always refers to the subject of the sentence. -> = SE panto-kron tropi se a sti-verba de frase.
AUTO has two uses. -> A= UTO habe bi uti.
1)
It can be an adjective referring to the subje= ct: -> Id posi es u deskribe-verba; qi tropi se a sti-verba:
AN DUCE= AUTO VAGONA A KRATI-DO =3D He drove his (own) car to the city hall.
= AN DUCE AN VAGONA A KRATI-DO =3D He drove his (someone else’s) car to th= e city hall.
2)
AUTO also can be added for emphasis: -> Pe plus= pote dona AUTO tende dona ma forti:
U REGI AUTO FU DUCE UN ARME =3D
The king himself will lead the army.
Some languages use SE only in th= e third person, some use it for first and second person as well. Glosa do= es not have a rule regarding this:
MI TROPI A FENESTRA =3D MI TROPI = MI A FENESTRA =3D MI TROPI SE A FENESTRA.
Mi audi tu vid= eo de puta-me sporta. U dice-soni es boni!
Saluta, _ _ /. /\ =A0= Gary #
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