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Re : GID

Localhosed (Localhosed <localhosed@...>) on May 15, 2012

xavier wrote :

Lexicographers can use a limited number of essential words to express all the definitions of a diccionary.

I know what a thesaurus is used for, but I don’t know what the authors of Longman used to determine importance of words they chose. How did they determine how common all words are? I don’t know if there is such a thing as a ‘cross-language thesaurus’ . I have never seen one. Even then, it would help to know the frequency of all words in most settings. But not only words - Phrases, meanings, sentences, idioms, everything. I found a project lately that was scanning books using OCR for that purpose (I guess for that purpose , at least partly). I forgot the name of it, it was a project on google, or by google, I don’t remember which.

Infra ci, Mi indika plu frase qi mi face; ex “neo”. Plu-ci ne es ex Centra GID. Under here, I indicate phrases that I make with ‘neo’.

I don’t particularly like the phrases I picked here. Mostly I do this for practice. (and discussion) Mi ne mega amo u plu frase qi mi elekti ci. Ko maxi tende, mi akti de tende exercise.

absence - depends on usage in sentence. possibilities - ab, minus, defekti acceptable -sati, sufici (sufici has more verblike forms in english. Ka-co, mi sio uti ‘sati’.) activity - akti (plus posi - excite, ergo) addition - depends on the meaning of ‘addition’. Id pote habe semani homo Glosa plu verba : ‘suma, adi, plus’ adolescent - (Mi) neo - proxi matura-pe , proxi-matura-pe , ju-pe (ne exakti) .. (Posi id es “du ge-adoleske pe”, ex Mega GID.) aircraft - posi aero-vagona, aero-veikula (mero ex Mega GID), announcement - deklara, alo ‘deklara dice’ beauty - hedo, kali (Mega GID has many forms. Mi doxo; Ma simpli semani es ma exakti. (Mi gene mira.) commander - Intra u-ci grama lista, mi nu pa dice de. creation - face alo krea cristal - Intra u-ci grama lista, mi nu pa dice de. discourage - Mi es excesi fatiga; de u-ci verba krea. Mi sugesti; uno-pe qestio u magika balo de okto! (joko) eastern - est, de est, a est (qi pende ex frase stato) (which depends on phrase conditions/state/situation) employment - ergo. Alo, posi “ge-uti”. Kausa; multi cefa uti plu ergo-pe minus justi. (Because; many employers use workers without fairness.) establishment - U-ci verba es u mega generali idea. Mi posi uti “base”, alo “centra-do”, alo “societa” , alo plu difere verba. expertise - tekno , Plus posi ma plu kombina. (And perhaps more combinations) formation - struktura, ordina, taxo, alo klu ‘poli-pe’. Frase stato es importa. Minus u frase; ‘struktura’, ‘ordina’ alo ‘taxo’ feno boni pro mi. killer - neo - posi cide-pe. Alo tende generali semani, posi “sto-idea” . Plu difere forma : “sto-ra”, “cide-me”. (Or for the purpose of general meaning, maybe “stopping/ceasing-idea” or “stopping/ceasing thing”, et cetera. lover - mi sio dice “pe qi amo [verba]” . There are other ways to describe the many different types of love in Mega GID. married - game. alo posi “pre-nu game”, pre-nu gene game, “Qe tu game u an/fe/andro/gina/homi ? “ , “Qe tu gene game? “ (already married/marriage/wed, already got married/marriage/wed

multiple - poli, multi (many, numerous, multiple), ge-multipli numera (u numera qi gene multipli) .. (‘‘Multipli” es ex Mega GID) oversee - krati , …alo uno-ra ma simpli. (krati, or something simpler) I made a mistake before when i suggested ‘arki’, though that can work fairly well too. physician - Intra u-ci grama lista, mi nu pa dice de. proposition - proposi, sugesti reflection - seqe, posi re-salta, there are many meanings. rhetoric - very multi-meaning word. Mi sio uti plu verba homo “info, diskuti, ‘verba strategi,.. et cetera’ seventh - septi, seti shuttle - bus, taxi, vagona, kine, ..posi ‘kine-ra’ (shuttlecock, for badminton and similar meanings of a projectile…alo posi ‘misili’ ex Mega GID) , alo spaci navi, alo pusi spaci navi, alo mikro spaci navi

singer - neo - qe kanta-pe ? sed, u-ci es ne maxi klari. posi ‘voka ergo-pe de kanta’. That’s long, so maybe kanta-pe isn’t so bad also. There are many related words (soni, voka, melodi). I thought of some phrases for ‘song writer’, and ‘voka ergo-pe’ is a ‘voice worker’, a person who could be a voice actor and radio announcer. But there can be phrases for those also.

sixth - sixa (sed ma..) stranger - posi neo pe, ne-ge-ski pe, pe qi es ne-ge-ski, depending on situation. (I guess xeno-pe (foreigner) is only intended for ‘out-of-country person’, …alo…u ne ben ge-ski pe (Mi sio uti ‘bene’…posi! … “strange” can also be used in a more general sense, e kaso u-la, mi sio uti “xeno”. (in that case i would use “xeno”.)

thinking - puta .. Mi du puta, Mi nu puta [de …]

Gratia, Ge-repara Menta (brevi tem de kalma)

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