Re: [glosalist] Translati

At 07:18 PM 10/9/03 -0500, Gary pa grafo:

Karo Robin e plu hetero Glosa-pe,

G: Ja, per uno puta, sto-ergo es “ki akorda mode de panto munda”, u-ci habe u semani; muta e sapro. Mi habe 46 anua, ko-co mi krati-fa ne volu; mi sto ergo a-kron mi habe 67-1/2 anua. ….. ** How do I say “Wow” in Glosa: possibly ~Wow!~

….. Mi ski; tu ne fu simpli sedi e skope Glosa sed fu du ergo pro Glosa.

** U-ci es u skema. Sed te developo mi komerci aktivi, iso u redakto-pe, veni prima. Mi posi traduce plu bibli, sed mi ski u produce de u gru kurso de gene-sco de Glosa sio debi es u ma boni uti de mi plu abili.

G: De England-lingua kopi de Sherlock Holmes: plu gratis kopi plus plu gratis kopi de plu hetero England-lingua “Komuni Dominio” bibli pote veni a tu puta-me per u loka; ge-nima Gutenburg Australia, www.promo.net. La es plu klasika ergo de England-lingua literatura; qi atende translati a Glosa…

** Qe “OK” translati in Glosa? Posi id es ~^OK^~ te dona un informa ke id eqa un aliena idioma importa in Glosa. ^OK^, mi fu skope http://www.promo.net .

G: Mi fu dona a tu plu England-lingua frase; de qi tu pa face qestio: “I never hope to see such a sight as that again, Mr. Holmes. From north, south, east, and west every man who had a shade of red in his hair had tramped into the city to answer the advertisement. Fleet Street was choked with red-headed folk, and Pope’s Court looked like a coster’s orange barrow.”
** Tu pa grafo:- ]Mi spe; vide ta vista homo u-la nuli-kron, sr. Holmes. Ex boreo, ]austra, orienta e ocide, panto andro; qi habe ali rubi kroma in kapila, ]pa trakto se ad-in civita te face reakti ad u-la publika grafo. U strata ]Fleet habe kongesti de rubi-kapila homi. U korta Pope feno habe u vista ]de orange merka-lo. Mi ne pa doxo; es ta poli in holo natio homo gene ]kolekti per u-la publika nota. *** Mi tende gene u flavoro de u lingua per kapto un atitudi de u dice-pe:- ~Mi spe, nuli-tem, de re-vide u tali vista iso u-la, Sr Holmes. Ex boreo, austra, orienta e ocide, singo andro; qi habe ali kroma de rubi intra an kapila, pa trakto-se in u civita te responde ad u-la ge-publika adverta [if there is such a word, and there should be]. Fleet Strada pa habe kongesti ko plu ge-rubi-kapila persona, e Pope Korta habe un apare de u frukta-merca-pe karta [?] de plu orange.~

**“Costa” ne es u problema pro mi. Mu es u klasi de plu vendo-pe intra centra London; qi habe klam [?pearl} butona ge-fixa epi holo mu vesti.

(Mi pa nece verifi u semani de verba coster per

verba-bibli.) Sr. Wilson pa es fo konversa sed ne fo logi-pote. Mi spe; u Glosa translati pote dona u-la idea.

As for making Glosa more understandable to peoples of other languages and cultures–Glosa already is the best idea for that! There are some “Englishisms” a speaker of English needs to shed to learn Glosa; it is not patterned on English so much as logic. Most human beings consider logic to be a “foreign language” and act mainly on habit or desire. Teaching the world Glosa will not be easy, but it will be easier than teaching the world English.

G: De face Glosa ma logi a plu demo de hetero lingua e more–Glosa nu es u maxi boni idea pro u-ci! ** Qod eqa u Glosa translati pro “understandable”? U-ci esce tu qestiona. Alterno-co, si tu tenta kogita uti Glosa, plus prima grafo u Glosa versio, tu ne habe u-ci problema.

Es plu England-lingua mode; England-lingua-pe nece lose te gene sko de Glosa. U-ci ne habe basi epi England-lingua sed epi logika. Maxi qantita homi doxo; logika feno es u “xeno lingua”, ko-co mu akti akorda habitu alo volu. Dona sko de Glosa a munda ne fu es facili, anti-co u-ci fu es fo ma facili de dona sko de England-lingua.

My suggestion is to appeal more to children. Children learn Glosa so much faster than any other language, because there are no inflections that need to be explained or taught by rote to them. Children understand Glosa well even though they don’t know the difference between a noun and a verb. (Although even a child can understand: “If there is one thing, put u in front of the word, and if there is more than one thing put plu in front of the word.” I would concentrate more on this than on the more abstract verb.)

G: Mi sugesti es sti volu in plu infanti. Plu infanti gene ski de Glosa ta ma tako de hetero lingua, ka es zero gramatika-verba-fini; qi nece gene explika a mu alo nece gene in mu memo per freqe dice. Infanti logi per Glosa fo boni, para-co mu ne habe u ski; difere inter nima-verba e akti verba es qo. (Anti-co klu infanti pote gene logi de u-ci: “Si es mo ra, grafo u ante verba, ko-co si es ma de mo ra, grafo plu ante verba.” Mi ma amo ergo de u-ci de de ma amorfo akti-verba.)

This again is nature’s way. We all learned to speak our native language first and learned grammar later.

G: Itera, u-ci es u mode de natura. Panto na pa gene ski de dice auto lingua ex proto, po-co na gene sko de gramatika.

But, armed with this knowledge, perhaps the best thing to promote Glosa would be some old-fashioned incentives. Esperanto has something called Pasporta Servo: Esperantists provide a place to stay for other traveling Esperantists. It has been an incentive for some young people who want to the see the world cheap to learn Esperanto. Esperantists also have teachers who travel to third-world countries. With organization, perhaps we Glosists could do the same or offer free books or postage to people from third-world countries.

G: Anti-co, po gene panto-ci ski, u maxi boni mode posi es plu more-mode sti-volu. Esperanto habe u certa Pasporta Servo: Plu Esperanto-pe dona gratis tem-eko a plu hetero Esperanto-pe. U-ci es u sti-volu de gene sko de Glosa ad oligo juve-pe; qi volu vide u munda per pusi valuta. Plu Esperanto-pe plus sti; plu doci-pe ki a munda-tri natio. Ko sistema, Glosa-pe na posi akti homo ra alo dona plu gratis bibli alo posta-preci a plu demo de munda-tri natio.

Saluta, _ _ /. Gary #/#

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