Re: Aesop 13: u formika e u troxalis

Dearest friend Niles you said: I’m not sure what part of the “18 Lessons” y= ou’re citing here. but the part I indicated is : “in qi ge-grafo ex kre= a-fe auto, in qi fe dice: sti =3D cause, make (laugh etc.), switch on. WEND= Y, one of two glosa creators, herself said defining use of “ STI” in 18st= eps, sti =3D “cause, make (laugh etc.)”, switch. Find it in search,find,in = “notepad” the use of “sti” in file 18steps. Sti e gene are NOT used to indi= cate verb use. Sti for transitiva, gene for ne-transitiva, as in exemples o= f GID. gene=3Dbecome> nati=3D give birth to, gene nati =3D be born. muta= =3Dchange something(transit.)>gene muta=3D become changed (ne-tran.) Penite= fo mega e saluta.

— In glosalist@yahoogroups.com, Ian Niles <ian_niles@= …> wrote:

Hi Myaleee,

 I'm going to switch to English he= re, since the discussion is becoming fairly technical.  See my responses be= low.

Thanks, Ian

To: glosalist@yahoogroups.com From: = myaleee@… Date: Wed, 9 Feb 2011 19:15:45 +0000 Subject: [glosalist] R= e: Aesop 13: u formika e u troxalis

Karo Niles ave = boni 1- Proto , dice si tu prefere alo odio plu latino verba??

<ian= I don’t think it’s a question of liking or disliking greek/latin words. = I’m just trying to use Core Glosa whenever possible. </ian>

2- Mi volu= audi opini de Sr. Miller

Me too :-).

3- Tu dice “”= sti” simpli indika; u seqe-verba habe funktio de akti-verba in ci frase.” = Sed lekto u funktio de “sti” en loka http://www.glosa.org/en/g18s.htm

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I'm not sure what part of the "18 Lessons" you're citing here. </ia= n> ge-grafo ex krea-fe auto, in qi fe dice: sti =3D cause, make (laugh= etc.), switch on. Babi somni(ne-trasitiva, ne nece objekto). Mi sti somni = babi(trasitiva, nece objekto=3Dbabi)=3D I make baby sleep. Komo en espera= nto, Ido: mi dormas , I sleep> mi dormigas filon=3D I make son sleep.(-ig = =3D sti ante akti-verba) Es u difere mega in uti "sti" :-) Id muta akti-v= erba a transitiva, qi nece objekto!! From what I've seen (and t= his is a bit different from what I said originally), "sti" has two function= s: it can play the role of "ig" in Esperanto/Ido, but it can also (based o= n my admittedly limited experience of reading Glosa) just mark that a word = is being used as a verb. I've seen "gene" used to indicate the same thing,= though with a passive rather than active emphasis. Just as "u(n)"/"plu" a= re often used to mark nouns and "ko(n)" and "mode" are often used to mark a= dverbs, I think "sti"/"gene" are often used to mark verbs. This makes perf= ect sense given that in Glosa any word can be any part of speech. =

Uci es plu exempli de GID: sti rapidi u logi de plu Latin e Greko voka= bulari=3Dmake rapid understand Na nece sti logi u demo u gravi de Glosa. = We must make people understand the importance of Glosa. Tu nece sti vora = an. You have to make him eat Fe pa sti gresi mi=3Dmake me walk id sti n= a furi=3Dmake us angry kron an pa sti kade u grafo-liqi ad epi mi grama. = I was writing when he spilt the ink on to my letter.alo make fall sti ako= rda 1+ match (v) sti ergo 1 drill (training) sti fatiga 1+ tedious = sti flo 1++ launch sti fobo 1G scare; terrible , fobo is afraid of st= i hedo 1++ make happy, hedo=3D is happy sti kade 1 fell (cause to fall); = tip over; upset (tip over) sti koleri 1+G annoy; irritate; provoke st= i kredi 1++ convince; persuade sti mei 1 reduce sti memo 1++ remind = sti mira 1 amaze sti more 1++ accustom someone, more=3D is accustomed = sti morta 1 kill, morta=3Ddie

sti obe 1 subdue; subjugate sti pat= o 1++G infect; infection sti pote 1++ enable sti puta 1+ impress s= ti retro 1 push back; turn back

sti ski 1++ announce sti sopo 1 lu= ll to sleep , sopo =3Dsleep

sti tristi 1 depress (make sad)

— = In glosalist@yahoogroups.com, Ian Niles <ian_niles@> wrote:

Gr= atia, Myalee. Anti-co, mi ne logi; qo-ka vi puta; “stora” es transitiva e “= sika” ne es tali (vi ne pa apo u “sti” ante “sika” in vi versio de mi trans= lati). Ma generali, mi qestio; qe es difere inter transitiva e ne-transitiv= a akti-verba in glosa. Mi pa puta; ne es difere e “sti” simpli indika; u se= qe-verba habe funktio de akti-verba in ci frase.

-Ian

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To: glosalist@yahoogroups.com From: myaleee@ Date: Tue, 8 F= eb 2011 18:02:33 +0000 Subject: [glosalist] Re: Aesop 13: u formika e u= troxalis

Karo Niles “u formika e u t= roxalis” es mega boni. Id es fo fo stimula. Mi totali respekti tu prefere d= e verba Greko. Sed mi prefere uti verba ex latino origo ka toto pes pre ski= mu ma Greko verba! So mi pa face u versio de tu nara. Me volu tu sugesti: = —————- 1- Tem u boni di de hiberni, plu formika pa du sti= sika plu grana; mu pa kolekti tem estiva. U troxalis, qi pa morta a kausa = de famina, ambula para plu formika e fo petitio u mero ex alimenta. Plu for= mika pa demanda ad an; “qo-ka vi ne pa stora alimenta tem estiva?” U troxal= is pa reakti; “mi ne pa habe sufici libe-tem. Mi pa spende toto di per kant= a.” Po-co, plu formika pa dice tem ridi anti an; “si vi sio pa es ta stupid= i; vi pa kanta toto estiva, vi nece kore a kli minus-vora tem hiberni.” =

2-uti stora vice sti stora.(stora=3Dtransitiva) saluta myalee= e, tu vexa-ple ami

— In glosalist@yahoogroups.com, Ian Niles <ia= n_niles@> wrote:

Tem u boni di de frigi-tem, plu formika= pa du sti sika plu grana; mu pa kolekti tem termo-tem. U troxalis, qi pa g= ene morta kausa famina, ambula para plu formika e fo petitio u mero ex sito= . Plu formika pa demanda ad an; “qo-ka vi ne pa sti stora sito tem termo-te= m?” U troxalis pa reakti; “mi ne pa habe sufici libe-tem. Mi pa spende pant= o di per kanta.” Po-co, plu formika pa dice tem ridi anti an; “si vi sio pa= es ta fatuo; vi pa kanta holo termo-tem, vi nece kore a kli minus-vora tem= frigi-tem.”

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