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RE: [glosalist] Re: Aesop 13: u formika e u troxalis
Ian Niles (Ian Niles <ian_niles@...>) on February 9, 2011
Hi Myaleee,
I'm going to switch to English here, since the discussi= on is becoming fairly technical. See my responses below.
Thanks,
Ian
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To: glosalist@yahoogroups.com
From: myaleee@…
Date: Wed, 9 Feb 201=
1 19:15:45 +0000
Subject: [glosalist] Re: Aesop 13: u formika e u troxalis
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Karo Niles
ave boni
1- Proto , dice si tu prefere alo odio plu lati=
no verba??
I don't think it's a question of liking or disliking gre=
ek/latin words. I'm just trying to use Core Glosa whenever possible. </ian=
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2- Mi volu audi opini de Sr. Miller
Me too :-).
3- Tu di=
ce ""sti" simpli indika; u seqe-verba habe funktio de akti-verba in ci fras=
e."
Sed lekto u funktio de "sti" en loka http://www.glosa.org/en/g18s.htm
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I'm not sure what part of the "18 Lessons" you're citing here. </ian=
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ge-grafo ex krea-fe auto, in qi fe dice: sti =3D cause, make (laugh etc.=
), switch on. Babi somni(ne-trasitiva, ne nece objekto). Mi sti somni babi(=
trasitiva, nece objekto=3Dbabi)=3D I make baby sleep.
Komo en esperanto, Id=
o: mi dormas , I sleep> mi dormigas filon=3D I make son sleep.(-ig =3D sti =
ante akti-verba)
Es u difere mega in uti "sti" :-) Id muta akti-verba a tra=
nsitiva, qi nece objekto!!
From what I've seen (and this is a bit d=
ifferent from what I said originally), "sti" has two functions: it can pla=
y the role of "ig" in Esperanto/Ido, but it can also (based on my admittedl=
y limited experience of reading Glosa) just mark that a word is being used =
as a verb. I've seen "gene" used to indicate the same thing, though with a=
passive rather than active emphasis. Just as "u(n)"/"plu" are often used =
to mark nouns and "ko(n)" and "mode" are often used to mark adverbs, I thin=
k "sti"/"gene" are often used to mark verbs. This makes perfect sense give=
n that in Glosa any word can be any part of speech.
Uci es plu exem=
pli de GID:
sti rapidi u logi de plu Latin e Greko vokabulari=3Dmake rapid =
understand
Na nece sti logi u demo u gravi de Glosa. We must make people un=
derstand the importance of Glosa.
Tu nece sti vora an. You have to make him=
eat
Fe pa sti gresi mi=3Dmake me walk
id sti na furi=3Dmake us angry
kron =
an pa sti kade u grafo-liqi ad epi mi grama. I was writing when he spilt th=
e ink on to my letter.alo make fall
sti akorda 1+ match (v)
sti ergo 1 dri=
ll (training)
sti fatiga 1+ tedious
sti flo 1++ launch
sti fobo 1G scare=
; terrible , fobo is afraid of
sti hedo 1++ make happy, hedo=3D is happy
st=
i kade 1 fell (cause to fall); tip over; upset (tip over)
sti koleri 1+G a=
nnoy; irritate; provoke
sti kredi 1++ convince; persuade
sti mei 1 reduce=
sti memo 1++ remind
sti mira 1 amaze
sti more 1++ accustom someone, mor=
e=3D is accustomed
sti morta 1 kill, morta=3Ddie
sti obe 1 subdue; subjuga=
te
sti pato 1++G infect; infection
sti pote 1++ enable
sti puta 1+ impre=
ss
sti retro 1 push back; turn back
sti ski 1++ announce
sti sopo 1 lul=
l to sleep , sopo =3Dsleep
sti tristi 1 depress (make sad)
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ist@yahoogroups.com, Ian Niles <ian_niles@...> wrote:
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> Gratia, Myalee=
. Anti-co, mi ne logi; qo-ka vi puta; "stora" es transitiva e "sika" ne es =
tali (vi ne pa apo u "sti" ante "sika" in vi versio de mi translati). Ma ge=
nerali, mi qestio; qe es difere inter transitiva e ne-transitiva akti-verba=
in glosa. Mi pa puta; ne es difere e "sti" simpli indika; u seqe-verba hab=
e funktio de akti-verba in ci frase.
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> -Ian
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> To: glosalist@ya=
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> From: myaleee@...
> Date: Tue, 8 Feb 2011 18:02:33 +0000
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Subject: [glosalist] Re: Aesop 13: u formika e u troxalis
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> Karo Niles
> "u formika e u troxalis" es mega boni. Id es fo fo stimula.=
Mi totali respekti tu prefere de verba Greko. Sed mi prefere uti verba ex =
latino origo ka toto pes pre ski mu ma Greko verba! So mi pa face u versio =
de tu nara. Me volu tu sugesti:
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> 1- Tem u boni di de hi=
berni, plu formika pa du sti sika plu grana; mu pa kolekti tem estiva. U tr=
oxalis, qi pa morta a kausa de famina, ambula para plu formika e fo petitio=
u mero ex alimenta. Plu formika pa demanda ad an; "qo-ka vi ne pa stora al=
imenta tem estiva?" U troxalis pa reakti; "mi ne pa habe sufici libe-tem. M=
i pa spende toto di per kanta." Po-co, plu formika pa dice tem ridi anti an=
; "si vi sio pa es ta stupidi; vi pa kanta toto estiva, vi nece kore a kli =
minus-vora tem hiberni."
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> 2-uti stora vice sti stora.(stora=3Dtransitiv=
a)
> saluta
> myaleee, tu vexa-ple ami
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> > Tem u boni di de frigi-tem, p=
lu formika pa du sti sika plu grana; mu pa kolekti tem termo-tem. U troxali=
s, qi pa gene morta kausa famina, ambula para plu formika e fo petitio u me=
ro ex sito. Plu formika pa demanda ad an; "qo-ka vi ne pa sti stora sito te=
m termo-tem?" U troxalis pa reakti; "mi ne pa habe sufici libe-tem. Mi pa s=
pende panto di per kanta." Po-co, plu formika pa dice tem ridi anti an; "si=
vi sio pa es ta fatuo; vi pa kanta holo termo-tem, vi nece kore a kli minu=
s-vora tem frigi-tem."
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