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RE: [glosalist] Re: Aesop 13: u formika e u troxalis

Ian Niles (Ian Niles <ian_niles@...>) on February 9, 2011

Hi Myaleee,

 I'm going to switch to English here, since the discussi= on is becoming fairly technical.  See my responses below.

Thanks, Ian

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To: glosalist@yahoogroups.com From: myaleee@… Date: Wed, 9 Feb 201= 1 19:15:45 +0000 Subject: [glosalist] Re: Aesop 13: u formika e u troxalis =

Karo Niles ave boni 1- Proto , dice si tu prefere alo odio plu lati= no verba??

I don't think it's a question of liking or disliking gre= ek/latin words. I'm just trying to use Core Glosa whenever possible. </ian= > 2- Mi volu audi opini de Sr. Miller Me too :-). 3- Tu di= ce ""sti" simpli indika; u seqe-verba habe funktio de akti-verba in ci fras= e." Sed lekto u funktio de "sti" en loka http://www.glosa.org/en/g18s.htm = I'm not sure what part of the "18 Lessons" you're citing here. </ian= > ge-grafo ex krea-fe auto, in qi fe dice: sti =3D cause, make (laugh etc.= ), switch on. Babi somni(ne-trasitiva, ne nece objekto). Mi sti somni babi(= trasitiva, nece objekto=3Dbabi)=3D I make baby sleep. Komo en esperanto, Id= o: mi dormas , I sleep> mi dormigas filon=3D I make son sleep.(-ig =3D sti = ante akti-verba) Es u difere mega in uti "sti" :-) Id muta akti-verba a tra= nsitiva, qi nece objekto!! From what I've seen (and this is a bit d= ifferent from what I said originally), "sti" has two functions: it can pla= y the role of "ig" in Esperanto/Ido, but it can also (based on my admittedl= y limited experience of reading Glosa) just mark that a word is being used = as a verb. I've seen "gene" used to indicate the same thing, though with a= passive rather than active emphasis. Just as "u(n)"/"plu" are often used = to mark nouns and "ko(n)" and "mode" are often used to mark adverbs, I thin= k "sti"/"gene" are often used to mark verbs. This makes perfect sense give= n that in Glosa any word can be any part of speech. Uci es plu exem= pli de GID: sti rapidi u logi de plu Latin e Greko vokabulari=3Dmake rapid = understand Na nece sti logi u demo u gravi de Glosa. We must make people un= derstand the importance of Glosa. Tu nece sti vora an. You have to make him= eat Fe pa sti gresi mi=3Dmake me walk id sti na furi=3Dmake us angry kron = an pa sti kade u grafo-liqi ad epi mi grama. I was writing when he spilt th= e ink on to my letter.alo make fall sti akorda 1+ match (v) sti ergo 1 dri= ll (training) sti fatiga 1+ tedious sti flo 1++ launch sti fobo 1G scare= ; terrible , fobo is afraid of sti hedo 1++ make happy, hedo=3D is happy st= i kade 1 fell (cause to fall); tip over; upset (tip over) sti koleri 1+G a= nnoy; irritate; provoke sti kredi 1++ convince; persuade sti mei 1 reduce= sti memo 1++ remind sti mira 1 amaze sti more 1++ accustom someone, mor= e=3D is accustomed sti morta 1 kill, morta=3Ddie sti obe 1 subdue; subjuga= te sti pato 1++G infect; infection sti pote 1++ enable sti puta 1+ impre= ss sti retro 1 push back; turn back sti ski 1++ announce sti sopo 1 lul= l to sleep , sopo =3Dsleep sti tristi 1 depress (make sad) --- In glosal= ist@yahoogroups.com, Ian Niles <ian_niles@...> wrote: > > > Gratia, Myalee= . Anti-co, mi ne logi; qo-ka vi puta; "stora" es transitiva e "sika" ne es = tali (vi ne pa apo u "sti" ante "sika" in vi versio de mi translati). Ma ge= nerali, mi qestio; qe es difere inter transitiva e ne-transitiva akti-verba= in glosa. Mi pa puta; ne es difere e "sti" simpli indika; u seqe-verba hab= e funktio de akti-verba in ci frase. > > -Ian > > > > To: glosalist@ya= hoogroups.com > From: myaleee@... > Date: Tue, 8 Feb 2011 18:02:33 +0000 > = Subject: [glosalist] Re: Aesop 13: u formika e u troxalis > > > > > > = > Karo Niles > "u formika e u troxalis" es mega boni. Id es fo fo stimula.= Mi totali respekti tu prefere de verba Greko. Sed mi prefere uti verba ex = latino origo ka toto pes pre ski mu ma Greko verba! So mi pa face u versio = de tu nara. Me volu tu sugesti: > ---------------- > 1- Tem u boni di de hi= berni, plu formika pa du sti sika plu grana; mu pa kolekti tem estiva. U tr= oxalis, qi pa morta a kausa de famina, ambula para plu formika e fo petitio= u mero ex alimenta. Plu formika pa demanda ad an; "qo-ka vi ne pa stora al= imenta tem estiva?" U troxalis pa reakti; "mi ne pa habe sufici libe-tem. M= i pa spende toto di per kanta." Po-co, plu formika pa dice tem ridi anti an= ; "si vi sio pa es ta stupidi; vi pa kanta toto estiva, vi nece kore a kli = minus-vora tem hiberni." > > 2-uti stora vice sti stora.(stora=3Dtransitiv= a) > saluta > myaleee, tu vexa-ple ami > > --- In glosalist@...= m, Ian Niles <ian_niles@> wrote: > > > > > > Tem u boni di de frigi-tem, p= lu formika pa du sti sika plu grana; mu pa kolekti tem termo-tem. U troxali= s, qi pa gene morta kausa famina, ambula para plu formika e fo petitio u me= ro ex sito. Plu formika pa demanda ad an; "qo-ka vi ne pa sti stora sito te= m termo-tem?" U troxalis pa reakti; "mi ne pa habe sufici libe-tem. Mi pa s= pende panto di per kanta." Po-co, plu formika pa dice tem ridi anti an; "si= vi sio pa es ta fatuo; vi pa kanta holo termo-tem, vi nece kore a kli minu= s-vora tem frigi-tem." > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have be= en removed] > > > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have be= en removed] > [Non-text portions of this message have been= removed]

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