thanks for your reply:can you watch u tube in beijing or is access to it li= mited by ???,,best wishes….saluta

On 26 August 2010 06:18, Zhenyu <lizhe= nyu_god@…> wrote:

Dear Duncan, I just found this reply f= rom you! I don’t look down upon the modern Manchu and their own tradition= al costuming and hairstyling. What I really hate is almost all Chinese pe= ople forget their real tradition that was caused by the historical Manchu= since 1644. If the old Manchu did do as per the ancient Mongolians’ ways= of ruling our ancient Chinese by not changing our Han’s traditions in th= e Yuan Dynasty the Mongol Dynasty, I wouldn’t be so strongly against them= the old Manchu. I think the Mongolian Dynasty was much greater than the = Manchu one! The Manchu era was an UGLY era in China and has been influenc= ing China so far, so that the whole world thinks our traditions is as the= same as the Manchu’s! The real traditions of Chinese, Koreans and Japane= se were all from the great ancient China.

Saluta! Li Zhenyu

-= – In glosalist@yahoogroups.com <glosalist%40yahoogroups.com>, chris dunc= an krisdunncan@... wrote:

know a little bit about a lot of langua= ges, but very few am i any good at.you should know that in london my na= tive city there are large numbers of people who come from all over th= e world and when i say large i mean two or three milion(yes that many= ) and so i am constantly hearing other languages than english.i respe= ct other peoples vews of theis own history so i will not take up the = point you make about the manchu people, but as you must know if you r= ead english language publications ,the chinese comunist party’s veiw of = the relations between the han people and other chinese nations is not = shared by those living outside china.like you i also agree that mondlan= go is distorted by out of place english word borrowings ,but one thing = though, apart from sistem frater the conlang invented by a vietnamese, = it is one of the few non western ones.i am fully aware of what we cal= l in the west”the great firewall of china” so I am wondering how much a= ccess you have to u tube.will explain when I receive your reply. saluta= .c.d,

On 12 August 2010 02:57, Zhenyu lizhenyu_god@... wrote:

Dear Chris, You’re so great of having learned the = Chinese minority national language. At the beginning I guessed the = “daiching” must be “Daqing”, because “Daiching” sounds like Korean or= Cantonese, and “DAI” sounds like Japanese “Great, big”, “Ching” li= ke “Qing”. The rest of the words couldn’t be understood since I didn’= t learn the language.

I’m a pure Han people, the Chinese majori= ty nation. In my personal point of view, I have been hating the anc= ient Manchu because they forced to change our Han’s 5 thousand year= ‘s tradition of costuming and hair styling that have only been bein= g kept by Koreans and Japanese (as you know, Japanese and Koreans’ = traditional costumes and hair style were originally from our Han’s.) = . Our Han’s image got as UGLY as Manchu by them since 1644 the Great = Ming Dynasty the last Han’s dynasty was overthrown. So far, our traditi= onal and national image is recognised as the Manchu’s by the world, w= hich has always been hated and against by me and those Hans who sti= ll remmeber what they were like 366 years ago.

Back to = the topic about languages, how many languages have you learned. For = me, I learned English, and some French, Spanish, German, Italian, Russia= n, Japanese and Korean. Russian is quite hard to remember those many = forms for each word so that I don’t like it. I hate complication. S= ince 2004, I met Esperanto, then Mondlango and Glosa. Glosa is the = easiest one, I love to study much on it.

Saluta!

Li Zhenyu

— In glosalist@yahoogroups.com <glosalist%40y= ahoogroups.com><glosalist% 40yahoogroups.com>, chris duncan <krisdu= nncan@> wrote:

just seeing whether or not you had any manch= u heritage as you live in beijing, got the sentence wrong though,pe= rhaps should have written,” si daiching gurun i gisun be tachimbi= o? zher shi manyu…translates as… ni xuexi da qingguo yu ma.so= rry for the confusion here.

On 10 August 2010 05:01, Zhenyu=

<lizhenyu_god@> wrote:

(si tachimbe = daicing gurun be gisun ,si manju gisun be manjurame ochi?) = I didn’t understand. Please explain for me!

= — In glosalist@yahoogroups.com <glosalist%40yahoogroups.com><glosalist= % 40yahoogroups.com><glosalist%

40yahoogroups.com>, chris

= duncan <krisdunncan@> wrote:

wode hanyu bu hen h= ao,wo huishuo yidian: wo bu qu-gou beijing he wo bu qu-= guo zhongghua, haishi wo bu dasuan qu zai zhongguo.wo shi” laowai” = ren.wo 56 sui.(si tachimbe daicing gurun be gisun ,si manju gisun b= e manjurame ochi?) must end this as it is not fair to other g= losalists who cannot read chinese pinyin.but thanks anywa= y for your kind greetings : On 6 August 2010 14:00, Zhe= nyu <lizhenyu_god@> wrote:

= Nihao! Xinghui Chris! Wo hen gaoxing renshi ni! Nide ha= nyu hen hao! Ni lai-guo Beijing ma? Wo xiwang ni hui = lai Beijing!Wode MSN: lizhenyu_god@, qing jia wo ba! Ni = duo da? Wo 32 sui, wo shengri shi 1977nian 12yue 31ri. Zhen gaoxing = ni hui Hanyu! Ruguo ni lai Beijing, qing gaosu = wo! Wo xiang jian ni!

I think Esperanto is the = most difficult auxlang in the world, so I hardly = use it for communication. Contrarily, Glosa is the easiest, some th= ings of it were thought problematic by some people.= I really like Glosa’s words source which is truly in= ternational and word making which is truly easy like = Chinese one. We should have a carefull study on it, in order to = find its brilliance.

= Mi volu u bibli =3D I want a book. & I want the book.

= GRAMMATICALLY, the two English sentences couldn’t mean the same = becouse of the differences of “a” and “the”. B= ut REALISTICALLY they do. Because in fact eve= n though you were told “THE” here means a certain one, but you stil= l don’t know “WHICH” one “THE” means by no more descriptive a= nd detailed info added before “book”! So in G= losa, there’s only U(N), no “LE(THE)”. I hope = Glosalists should do more explanation on the confusions some people = pointed out, in order to let them come back! =

Saluta! Li Zhenyu =

— In glosalist@yahoogroups.com <glosalist%40yahoogroup= s.com><glosalist% 40yahoogroups.com><glosalist% 40yahoogroups.com><= glosalist%

40yahoogroups.com>, chris

duncan <= krisdunncan@> wrote:

xinghui zhenyou!! :wo = shi yinguo ren:wo zhu zai london:wo bu shi xuesheng: = wo dagong…. danshi…wo xihuan xueshi yuyan: ni zai daxue = xueshi le? sorry glosa list people= for this language mix, but i wanted to show that glosa = people are not like esperantists, just another bunch of = euro_clones ,and, oh yes, please exuse my non use= of glosa. I feel realy bad posting here in = english c.d.

On 5 August 201= 0 13:47, Zhenyu <lizhenyu_god@> wrote:

=

Hello, our new friend, Chris,

Nihao! Where are you from? I’m glad to do as you suggested. =

Ave a panto Glosa-pe!

(NG) Ave a pan Glosa-pe!

= Ta longi tem mi ne pa grafo ci! U-la ne semani mi pa dona = ab Glosa! Kontra-co, mi panto-tem= lekto plu PGN e stude Glosa! Mi ankora doxo; Glosa es u = maxi boni lingua de ali l= ingua inklude plu natura- e ge-face- lingua in munda = (exklude

Cina-lingua HAHA, qi es u = maxi sofi doci-pe de Lexi-face pro ali lingua)! = (NG) Ta longi tem mi ne pa grafo ci! Un-la ne semani mi pa d= ona ab Glosa! Kontra-co, = mi panto-tem lekto plu-le PGN e stude Glosa! Mi ankora doxo; = Glosa es (le) maxi boni = lingua da ali lingua inklude plu natura- e ge-face- lingua in = munda (exklude Cina-lingua HAHA, qi= es (le) maxi sofi doci-pe pri Lexi-face pro ali = lingua)!

Mi= panto-tem sti kredi mi;u nu-Glosa es logika e id plura posi ko= nfusi es no-nece ge-turba de(worried about)= . Sed na debi klari dice plu lexi qi habe = plu konfusi funktio homo an/an-, fe/fe-,= etc., e more solo uti u mode de “un = hedo de

an…(The happiness= of his)”, e kura pensi de si na pote minus-turba u= ti “an hedo…(he happilly/ his happine= ss)” qi es in u posi konfusi mode. (NG)Mi panto-t= em sti kredi mi;le nu-Glosa es logika e id plura posi = konfusi es no-nece ge-turba pri(worrie= d about). Sed na debi klari dice plu lexi qi = habe plu konfusi funktio homo an/an-, fe/fe-, etc., e mor= e solo uti le mode de “Le = hedo de an…(The happiness of his)”, e kura pensi pri s= i na pote minus-turba uti “an un = hedo…(his happiness)” qi es in un posi konfusi mode.

=

Mi doxo LFN ne es ma boni de Glosa qi p= lus tena poli konfusi e komplexi! E Mondl= ango habe gramatika exakti, sed mi ne amo id uti de “de” ge-uti=

homo

“by(passive voice)” e “from”. E id “K= rom(besides)” e “Kromo(color)” habe un = iso radi qi ne es boni! (NG)Mi doxo L= FN ne es ma boni da Glosa qi plus tena poli konfusi e = komplexi! E Mondlango habe un gramatika exakti, sed mi= ne amo id un uti de “de” ge-uti ho= mo “by(passive voice)” e “from”. E id un “Krom(besides)” = e un “Kromo(color)” habe le iso =

radi qi ne es boni!

= Mi Neoglosa habe klu ma exakti-ra, sed qi pa proto existe fo = tardi! U nu-Glosa pa existe m= a pre-kron de id! (NG)Mi un Neoglosa habe klu ma exakti-r= a, sed qi pa proto existe fo tardi! L= e nu-Glosa pa existe ma pre-kron da id! =

Panto munda-pe stude e uti Englangda-l= ingua, nuli-pe kura de Ge-face-lingua. Sed = no-poli pe pote uti Englanda-lingua boni e poli pe fu panto-tem = es tem sufere stude stato.= No-posi maxi nume Munda-pe pote manu English boni! English = es homo u minus-baso poro(a = bottomless whole)! Mega mero munda-pe bio pro auto = desira, ne pro u maxi-boni ideali! So mu fu d= ura gresi ad (u) via a morta de stude English! = Mali fortuna, un UN ne pa funktio boni de u max= i-boni mode de Interkomunika pro = munda-pe! (NG)Panto munda-pe stude e uti Englangda-lingua= , nuli-pe kura pri Ge-face-lingua. Sed = non-poli pe pote uti Englanda-lingua (in) boni e poli pe fu = panto-tem es tem sufere = stude stato. Non-posi maxi nume Munda-pe pote manu English (in) = boni! English es homo un minus-baso = poro(a bottomless whole)! Mega mero munda-pe bio pro auto=

desira, ne pro un maxi-boni ideali! So= mu fu dura gresi epi (le) via ad morta de stude = English! Mali fortuna, le UN ne pa funktio (in) boni = pri le maxi-boni mode de Interkomunika pro =

munda-pe! Qo-mode na debi akti???=

Saluta!

= Li Zhenyu

— In glosalist@yahoog= roups.com<glosalist%40yahoogroups.com><glosalist% 40yahoogroups.com><glos= alist% 40yahoogroups.com><glosalist% 40yahoogroups.com><glo= salist%

40yahoogroups.com>, chris

= duncan <krisdunncan@> wrote:

= hello zhenyou! ni hau ma ?could you take a passage of glosa = text and translate it into neoglosa so that= we can all see the two languages side = by and compare them one with each other. xie xie = ni. zaijian c.d.

On 2 August = 2010 12:38, Zhenyu <lizhenyu_god@> wrote:

=

Ave a panto Glosa-pe!

Ta longi tem mi ne pa grafo ci! U-la ne semani mi pa = dona ab Glosa! Kontra-co, mi panto-= tem lekto plu PGN e stude Glosa! Mi ankora doxo; = Glosa es u maxi boni lingua de ali lingua= inklude plu natura- e ge-face- lingua in = munda (exlude Cina-lingua HAHA, qi es u maxi sofi doci= -pe de Lexi-face pro = ali lingua)!

Mi panto-tem= sti kredi mi;u nu-Glosa es logika e id plura posi ko= nfusi es no-nece ge-turba de(worrie= d about). Sed na debi klari dice plu lexi q= i habe plu konfusi funtio homo an/a= n-, fe/fe-, etc.. e more solo uti u mode de = “un hedo de an…(The happiness of his)”, e = kura pensi de si na pote minus-turba = uti “an hedo…(he happilly/ his happiness)” qi es in u = posi konfusi mode.

= Mi doxo LFN ne es ma boni de Glosa qi plus tena poli = konfusi e komplexi! E Mondlang= o habe gramatika exakti, sed mi ne amo id uti de “de” = ge-uti homo “by(passive voice)” e = “from”. E id “Krom(besides)” e “Kromo(color)” h= abe un iso radi qi ne es boni!

= Mi Neoglosa habe klu ma exakti-ra, sed qi pa proto = existe fo tardi! U nu-G= losa pa existe ma pre-kron de id!

= Panto munda-pe stude e uti Englangda-lingua, nuli-pe kura de = Ge-face-lingua. Sed no-poli pe pote uti Englanda-lingua = boni e poli pe fu = panto-tem es tem sufere stude stato. No-posi maxi nume M= unda-pe pote manu Eng= lish boni! English es homo u minus-baso poro(a bottomless = whole)! Maxi munda-pe bio pro mu= desira, ne pro u maxi-boni ideali! So mu fu dura = gresi u via a morta de stude English! = Mali fortuna, un UN ne pa funtio boni de = u maxi-boni mode de Interkomunika pro m= unda-pe!

Qo-mode na debi akti??= ?

Saluta!

Li Zhenyu

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