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Re: [glosalist] Re: Newly Created Chinese Pinyin with Tone Markers

chris duncan (chris duncan <krisdunncan@...>) on August 24, 2010

zhenyu…your new system for tones in pinyin by using letters of the alpha= bet rather than tone marks above each word does not work for westerners …= .the reason ?…every time a westerner sees a letter of the alphabet he wan= ts to give it the sound it has as either a consonant or vowel in that alpha= bet eg: n.i.l.m.e.n. he wants to pronounce as n.i.l.m.e.n not ni<men : w= ol as w.o.l not wo< (tone mark <) and the double vowel aa in haanyul he= wants to sound as h.a.a.n not han (tone mark ) chinese people do not have= this problem because they are used to using a non phonetic symbolic charac= ter system, and they see each character as one complete sound including the= tone that goes with it ,so they fail to see why westerners cannot think al= ong the same lines. the problem is psychological zhenyu not phonetic. hope = this comment is helpful. saluta c.d,

On 17 August 2010 06:44, Zhenyu <lizh= enyu_god@…> wrote:

Duncan heh DJ Nilmen haol! Qilng yoon= g wol famihng de Biaodiaoo-Pinyin xiel Haanyul ba! Wol xialng kaankaan ni= lmen nehngfoul zhalngwoo!

Saluta! Lil Zheenyul(Li Zhenyu)

— I= n <>, “Zhenyu” <lizh= enyu_god@…> wrote:

Hello, Dear friends, In order to show tone= s of Chinese Pinyin with tone markers for those who can write Pinyin, I c= reated 3 tone markers added into the original forms of Pinyin which are a= s follows:

Plain Tone(/First Tone): Original Exp: a, ao, -in, -= ong

Up Tone(/Second Tone): Last vowel letter of original + h Ex= p: ah, aoh, -ihn, -ohng

Up-down Tone(/Third Tone): :Last vowel lett= er of original + l Exp: al, aol, -iln, -olng

Down Tone(/Fourth = Tone): Double the Last vowel letter of original Exp: aa, aoo, -iin, -oo= ng

v instead of original “=A8=B9” (U with two dots above like Germa= n)”

Sentence Examples: Original: Wo shi Zhongguoren, wo lai zi = Beijing. With Tone Markers:Wol shii Zhongguohrehn, wol laih zii Beiljin= g. English:I am Chinese, I come from Beijing.

Spe;u-ci neo sti-= ma-boni Pinyin fu auxi ma-poli ami;qi du stude e uti Cina-lingua!

= Hope this newly improved Pinyin will help more friends who are learning = and using Chinese!

Xiwaang zheegee xin-gailjiin de Pinyin jiang ban= gzhuu geeng duo zheengzaii xuehxih heh shilyoong Haanyul de pehngyoul. = (Xiwang zhege xin-gaijin de Pinyin jiang bangzhu geng duo zhengzai xuexi = he shiyong Hanyu de pengyou.)

Saluta! Li Zhenyu


– C. D .

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