know a little bit about a lot of languages, but very few am i any good at.y= ou should know that in london my native city there are large numbers of peo= ple who come from all over the world and when i say large i mean two or thr= ee milion(yes that many) and so i am constantly hearing other languages tha= n english.i respect other peoples vews of theis own history so i will not t= ake up the point you make about the manchu people, but as you must know if = you read english language publications ,the chinese comunist party’s veiw o= f the relations between the han people and other chinese nations is not sha= red by those living outside china.like you i also agree that mondlango is d= istorted by out of place english word borrowings ,but one thing though, apa= rt from sistem frater the conlang invented by a vietnamese, it is one of th= e few non western ones.i am fully aware of what we call in the west”the gre= at firewall of china” so I am wondering how much access you have to u tube.= will explain when I receive your reply. saluta.c.d,

On 12 August 2010 02:5= 7, Zhenyu lizhenyu_god@... wrote:

Dear Chris, You’re so = great of having learned the Chinese minority national language. At the be= ginning I guessed the “daiching” must be “Daqing”, because “Daiching” sou= nds like Korean or Cantonese, and “DAI” sounds like Japanese “Great, big”= , “Ching” like “Qing”. The rest of the words couldn’t be understood since= I didn’t learn the language.

I’m a pure Han people, the Chinese majori= ty nation. In my personal point of view, I have been hating the ancient M= anchu because they forced to change our Han’s 5 thousand year’s tradition= of costuming and hair styling that have only been being kept by Koreans = and Japanese (as you know, Japanese and Koreans’ traditional costumes and= hair style were originally from our Han’s.) . Our Han’s image got as UGL= Y as Manchu by them since 1644 the Great Ming Dynasty the last Han’s dyna= sty was overthrown. So far, our traditional and national image is recogni= sed as the Manchu’s by the world, which has always been hated and against= by me and those Hans who still remmeber what they were like 366 years ag= o.

Back to the topic about languages, how many languages have you learn= ed. For me, I learned English, and some French, Spanish, German, Italian,= Russian, Japanese and Korean. Russian is quite hard to remember those ma= ny forms for each word so that I don’t like it. I hate complication. Sinc= e 2004, I met Esperanto, then Mondlango and Glosa. Glosa is the easiest o= ne, I love to study much on it.

Saluta! Li Zhenyu

— In glos= alist@yahoogroups.com <glosalist%40yahoogroups.com>, chris duncan <krisdu= nncan@…> wrote:

just seeing whether or not you had any manchu her= itage as you live in beijing, got the sentence wrong though,perhaps sho= uld have written,” si daiching gurun i gisun be tachimbio? zher shi man= yu…translates as… ni xuexi da qingguo yu ma.sorry for the confusion= here.

On 10 August 2010 05:01, Zhenyu lizhenyu_god@... wrote:

(si tachimbe daicing gurun be gisun ,si manju gisun be

manjurame ochi?) I didn’t understand. Please explain for me! =

— In glosalist@yahoogroups.com <glosalist%40yahoogroups.c= om><glosalist% 40yahoogroups.com>, chris duncan <krisdunncan@> wrot= e:

wode hanyu bu hen hao,wo huishuo yidian: wo bu qu-gou be= ijing he wo bu qu-guo zhongghua, haishi wo bu dasuan qu zai zhong= guo.wo shi” laowai” ren.wo 56 sui.(si tachimbe daicing gurun be gis= un ,si manju gisun be manjurame ochi?) must end this as it is not f= air to other glosalists who cannot read chinese pinyin.but thanks= anyway for your kind greetings : On 6 August 2010 14:00, Zhenyu =

<lizhenyu_god@> wrote:

Nihao! Xinghui= Chris! Wo hen gaoxing renshi ni! Nide hanyu hen hao! Ni lai-guo = Beijing ma? Wo xiwang ni hui lai Beijing!Wode MSN: lizhenyu_god= @, qing jia wo ba! Ni duo da? Wo 32 sui, wo shengri shi 1977nia= n 12yue 31ri. Zhen gaoxing ni hui Hanyu! Ruguo ni lai Bei= jing, qing gaosu wo! Wo xiang jian ni!

I think Esperant= o is the most difficult auxlang in the world, so I hardly u= se it for communication. Contrarily, Glosa is the easiest, some things = of it were thought problematic by some people. I really like = Glosa’s words source which is truly international and word maki= ng which is truly easy like Chinese one. We should have a= carefull study on it, in order to find its brilliance. =

Mi volu u bibli =3D I want a book. & I want the book.

GRAMMATICALLY, the two English sentences couldn’t mean th= e same becouse of the differences of “a” and “the”. But R= EALISTICALLY they do. Because in fact even though you wer= e told “THE” here means a certain one, but you still don’t know= “WHICH” one “THE” means by no more descriptive and detailed info = added before “book”! So in Glosa, there’s only U(N), no “LE(THE)”.=

I

hope

Glosalists should do more explanation on the conf= usions some people pointed out, in order to let them come b= ack!

Saluta! Li Zhenyu

= — In glosalist@yahoogroups.com <glosalist%40yahoogroups.com><glos= alist% 40yahoogroups.com><glosalist%

40yahoogroups.com>, chris

duncan <krisdunncan@> wrote:

xinghui zhenyo= u!! :wo shi yinguo ren:wo zhu zai london:wo bu shi xuesheng: = wo dagong…. danshi…wo xihuan xueshi yuyan: ni zai daxue xuesh= i le? sorry glosa list people for this language= mix, but i wanted to show that glosa people are not li= ke esperantists, just another bunch of euro_clones ,and, = oh yes, please exuse my non use of glosa. I feel realy bad posting = here in english c.d.

On 5 A= ugust 2010 13:47, Zhenyu <lizhenyu_god@> wrote:

=

Hello, our new friend, Chris, Niha= o! Where are you from? I’m glad to do as you suggested.

=

Ave a panto Glosa-pe! (NG) Ave a pan G= losa-pe!

Ta longi tem mi ne pa gr= afo ci! U-la ne semani mi pa dona ab Glosa! Kontra-co, = mi panto-tem lekto plu PGN e stude Glosa! Mi ankora doxo; Glosa = es u maxi boni lingua de ali l= ingua inklude plu natura- e ge-face- lingua in munda (exklu= de

Cina-lingua HAHA, qi es u maxi sofi doci-pe = de Lexi-face pro ali lingua)! (NG) Ta longi tem m= i ne pa grafo ci! Un-la ne semani mi pa dona ab Glosa! = Kontra-co, mi panto-tem lekto plu-le PGN e stude Glosa!= Mi ankora doxo; Glosa es (le) maxi boni = lingua da ali lingua inklude plu natura- e ge-face- lingua in = munda (exklude Cina-lingua HAHA, qi es (le) ma= xi sofi doci-pe pri Lexi-face pro ali lingua)! =

Mi panto-tem sti kredi mi;u nu-Glosa es= logika e id plura posi konfusi es no-nece ge= -turba de(worried about). Sed na debi klari dice plu lexi qi = habe plu konfusi funktio homo an/an-, fe/fe= -, etc., e more solo uti u mode de “un hedo= de

an…(The happiness of his)”, e kura pensi = de si na pote minus-turba uti “an = hedo…(he happilly/ his happiness)” qi es in u posi konfusi mode. = (NG)Mi panto-tem sti kredi mi;le nu-Glosa es logika e id plura = posi konfusi es no-nece ge-turba pri= (worried about). Sed na debi klari dice plu lexi qi hab= e plu konfusi funktio homo an/an-, fe/fe-, etc., e more solo = uti le mode de “Le hedo de an= …(The happiness of his)”, e kura pensi pri si na pote minus-turba = uti “an un hedo…(his happiness)” qi es in un posi = konfusi mode.

Mi doxo LFN ne es m= a boni de Glosa qi plus tena poli konfusi e komplexi! E = Mondlango habe gramatika exakti, sed mi ne amo id uti de “de” ge= -uti homo “by(passive voice)” e “from”. E id “Krom(= besides)” e “Kromo(color)” habe un iso = radi qi ne es boni! (NG)Mi doxo LFN ne es ma boni da Glos= a qi plus tena poli konfusi e komplexi! E Mon= dlango habe un gramatika exakti, sed mi ne amo id un uti de “de” = ge-uti homo “by(passive voice)” e “from”. E i= d un “Krom(besides)” e un “Kromo(color)” habe le is= o

radi qi ne es boni!

= Mi Neoglosa habe klu ma exakti-ra, sed qi pa proto existe fo tardi! = U nu-Glosa pa existe ma pre-kron de id! = (NG)Mi un Neoglosa habe klu ma exakti-ra, sed qi pa proto exis= te fo tardi! Le nu-Glosa pa existe ma= pre-kron da id!

Panto munda-pe s= tude e uti Englangda-lingua, nuli-pe kura de Ge-face-lingua. = Sed no-poli pe pote uti Englanda-lingua boni e poli pe fu pan= to-tem es tem sufere stude stato. No-po= si maxi nume Munda-pe pote manu English boni! English es = homo u minus-baso poro(a bottomless whole)! Mega = mero munda-pe bio pro auto desira, ne pro u = maxi-boni ideali! So mu fu dura gresi ad (u) via a morta de stude = English! Mali fortuna, un UN ne pa funk= tio boni de u maxi-boni mode de Interkomunika pro = munda-pe! (NG)Panto munda-pe stude e uti Englangda-lingu= a, nuli-pe kura pri Ge-face-lingua. Sed non-p= oli pe pote uti Englanda-lingua (in) boni e poli pe fu panto-tem = es tem sufere stude stato. Non-posi maxi = nume Munda-pe pote manu English (in) boni! English es h= omo un minus-baso poro(a bottomless whole)! Mega mero munda-p= e bio pro auto desira, ne pro un maxi-b= oni ideali! So mu fu dura gresi epi (le) via ad morta de stude = English! Mali fortuna, le UN ne pa funktio (in) boni = pri le maxi-boni mode de Interkomunika pro

= munda-pe! Qo-mode na debi akti???

= Saluta!

Li Zhenyu

= — In glosalist@yahoogroups.com <glosalist%40yahoogroups.com><gl= osalist% 40yahoogroups.com><glosalist% 40yahoogroups.com><glosalist= %

40yahoogroups.com>, chris

duncan =

<krisdunncan@> wrote:

hello zhenyou! ni hau= ma ?could you take a passage of glosa text and tra= nslate it into neoglosa so that we can all see the two languages = side by and compare them one with each = other. xie xie ni. zaijian c.d.

On 2 Augu= st 2010 12:38, Zhenyu <lizhenyu_god@> wrote:

=

Ave a panto Glosa-pe!

Ta longi tem mi ne pa grafo ci! U-la ne semani mi pa dona ab G= losa! Kontra-co, mi panto-tem lekto plu PGN e stude Glosa= ! Mi ankora doxo; Glosa es u ma= xi boni lingua de ali lingua inklude plu natura- e ge-face- = lingua in munda (exlude Cina-lingua HAHA, qi es u ma= xi sofi doci-pe de Lexi-face pro = ali lingua)!

Mi panto-tem sti kredi m= i;u nu-Glosa es logika e id plura posi konfusi es=

no-nece ge-turba de(worried about). Sed na debi klari di= ce plu lexi qi habe plu k= onfusi funtio homo an/an-, fe/fe-, etc.. e more solo uti u mode= de “un hedo de an…(The happiness of his)= “, e kura pensi de si na pote minus-turba = uti “an hedo…(he happilly/ his happiness)” qi es in u posi = konfusi mode.

Mi doxo = LFN ne es ma boni de Glosa qi plus tena poli konfusi e komp= lexi! E Mondlango habe gramatika exakti, sed mi ne amo id= uti de “de” ge-uti homo “by(pa= ssive voice)” e “from”. E id “Krom(besides)” e “Kromo(color)” = habe un iso radi qi ne es boni!

= Mi Neoglosa habe klu ma exakti-ra, sed qi pa proto existe=

fo

tardi!

U

nu-Glosa pa existe ma pre-= kron de id!

Panto munda-pe stude e uti = Englangda-lingua, nuli-pe kura de Ge-face-lingua. Sed n= o-poli pe pote uti Englanda-lingua boni e poli pe = fu panto-tem es tem sufere stude stato. No-posi ma= xi nume Munda-pe pote manu Engl= ish boni! English es homo u minus-baso poro(a bottomless whole)= ! Maxi munda-pe bio pro mu desira, ne pro u= maxi-boni ideali! So mu fu dura gresi u = via a morta de stude English! Mali fortuna, un UN ne pa funtio = boni de u maxi-boni mode de= Interkomunika pro munda-pe!

Qo-mode na= debi akti???

Saluta!

Li Zhenyu

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