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Re: [glosalist] Mi gene sko de Glosa..

Robin Fairbridge Gaskell (Robin Fairbridge Gaskell <drought-breaker@...>) on December 23, 2005

At 10:46 PM 12/16/05, Stephan Schneider pa grafo:

Plu saluta! Mi nu gene = sko de glosa. Mi lekto “18 Steps to Fluency in Euro- Glosa”. Mi habe plu q= uestio. (Mi spe; u grafo-pe de u-la /text/ fu lekto u-ci grama.) *** Ne-so= . Ron Clark pa morta, e Wendy Ashby habe nuli nexi ko un Inter-reti. Mi = pa enkontro mu durante plu 1980 anua.

Que mu pote grafo “qu” vice “q”? Mi= sio amo id. *** Intra Glosa, mo litera habe mo sono! U sono de ~q~ eqa “K= W”.

  N.B. Intra u-ci lingua mo sono ne nece habe solo mo litera.

Qu= e il es un gramatika de plu speci de plu verba in frase?

Quo-ka mu dice = “de plu speci” vice “de speci” alo “in frase” vice “in plu frase”? Mi puta= ; ambi es u homo speci de verba. *** Fo dificili. Iso intra England-lingu= a, na pote selekti “a”, “the”, alo “ “ pre u Nomina-verbi, intra Glosa na= pote uti ~u~ alo ~uno~ te indika u komence de u Nomina Minor-grega; anti= -co, na pote evita un uti de u tali signe (per elide id).

  Simi, na p= ote evita uti ~plu~ intra Glosa,  si na logi ke u koncepa habe plurali  sem= ani.  Glosa pa gene ge-designe iso u lingua qi  pote habe bio; ne eqa u lin= gua ko plu strikti regula.

In “u bibli penta”, que “bibli” es u adjektivo= e “penta” es u substantivo? Que speci de verba es “u” in glossa? Mi ne pu= ta; id es un adjektivo. *** U ne eqa “the”. Id habe u funktio de indika =

u proto de u minor grega; qi fini ko u Nomina-verbi: id eqa u signe.

=    ~U penta bibli~ =3D"the fifth book".  ~U  bibli penta~ stresi umo bibli:=  id es u penta  bibli de u seri.  Id eqa u komposito Nomina; in  qi u ~pent= a~ habe ma signifi de u ~bibli~: posi id sio es ~Bibli Penta~.

    Pla= ce ne konfusi u lexi de Glosa ko u-la  de England-lingua.  Plu verbi de Glo= sa ne gene  ge-marka iso Nomina-verbi, Akti-verbi alo  Deskribe-verbi pre u=  tem de mu uti intra u frasa.

    Mi deskribe de Glosa gramatika es Si= ntaxi Ge-basi Gramatika.

    Iso Ron Clark pa dice: intra Glosa u  ver= bi pote funkti, ko-in logika, iso ali mero de dice.

    Intra Glosa un=  akuto difere inter plu  verbi; qi deskribe plu Akti-verbi e plu  Nomina-ve= rbi, nuli existe.  U minor-grega [Eng.  phrase] habe u funktio, e u deskrib= e verbi habe  loka pre u substanti verbi.  U litera de plu  verbi ne muta k= o id difere funktio.

EG ~U celero moti vagona pa passa an.~ (a/the fa= st move car did pass him) “A quickly moving car passed him.”

= ~U celero bola pa kausa un andra te kade.~ (a/the fast ball did c= ause the man {in order} to fall) “A fast ball caused the man to fal= l.”

   ~U navi pa celero moti longi u ripa iso u venti pa kresce.~    =  [the boat did fast move along the river as the wind did grow]
   "The = boat quickly moved along the river as the wind grew."

Mi memo Ron desk= ribe plu-tali verbi iso  ~Muta-verbi~.  Mu pa muta u semani de alo un akti = alo u ra.

Quo-mode mu elekti u fini vokali de u glosa verba? putare -> p= uta amare, ego amo -> amo *** Plu verbi bibli de plu major moderno lingua= pa es un origi indika. Po u-la, Ron pa decide de lase plu Glosa-pe= selekti u fini vokale; qi, a mu, sembla u maxi gru. Seqe, u Glosa 6= 000 verbi bibli gene publika ko plu maxi prefere finali vokali.

   Pl= u labia de plu dice-pe pa habe signifi ko plu-ci decide.

Quo-ka mu ne dic= e “ama” vice “amo”? Mi ne logi id.

Que mu pote grafo “pato do” vice “pato= -do”? Que mu signifi homo ra? Que mu habe u homo dice mode? *** ~pato do~ = =3D “sick house” ~pato-do~ es u komposito verbi ..=3D “place of/for s= ickness”

   Domi =3D house (building)        -do es u brevi form de do= mi.

“pato-pe” signifi “patient”, sed plus-co “ill person”, que? *** Glosa= eqa u ‘Meta-lingua’ ge designa pro un uti de holo-pe. I sio pote es u lit= erari lingua, sed u-ci uti nece habe mega ma verbi.

  U ~pato-pe~, in = u komposito forma, usuali es intra u pato-do.

  U ~pato persona~ es u = persona; qi habe pato.

Mi puta; mi sio amo “game-matri” vice “gina-matri”= . Singu matri es u gina, que? *** Intra plura kultura il es fo signifi kon= cerne plu parenta-parenta: U gina-matri es u matri de u gina qi habe mari= ta. Un andra-matri es u matri de un andra; qi habe marita. U kompleti fas= ki de plu parenta-parenta gene kompleti ko u gina-patri e un andra-patri. =

Quo-ra es hetero “plu audi-pe” e “plu skopo-pe”? Ambi es in England- lin= gua “audience”, que? *** Eng.:viewers, listeners. ~Audi-pe~ =3D “audi= ence”; “listeners” ~Skopo-pe~ =3D 'audience'; “viewers”; “watchers”=

Mi ne logi; mu grafo “an-piski” vice “andro piski”. “an” es u /pronoun/= e u /suffix/, sed mi puta; id ne es /prefix/. Seque-co mu debe dice “andr= o piski” vice “an-piski”. Mi solo puta id.

Quo-speci de verba es “ne”, “= pa” e “fu”? *** ~ne, no-, nuli~ =3D “no (not), un-, nothing” … negativi p= artikla.

  ~pa, fu, du, nu~ =3D "did, will (shall), continues, now" ..= . tem partikla.

  andro ---> an-     femina --->  fe- ;  an =3D  he,hi= m, his; fe =3D she,her hers >      man       he-    female       she-

“St= i id pende a mura” debe es “Pende id a mura”, que? (Vide pagina mo- bi.) #=

[Sorry , can’t reconstruct this in my mind. Don’t have the book.]

“via= gia-bo” es “travel agency” vice “travel agent”, que? (Vide pagina mo-mo.) = *** Viagia-bo-pe =3D (travel shop person) travel agent.

The stress falls=
on the last vowel before the last consonant, right?
I think that “s” is e=
xcluded from that rule (like in Interlingua and
Spanish), otherwise it wou=
ld be “an=E0s”, “skiur=F9s”, “kan=ECs” and so on.
Is this correct?
Ne e ya=
u stresi kade epi u pen-ultima vokali, si u verbi habe ma de mo vokali. =

Quo-ka u nima de u-ci lingua es “Glosa” (vice “Lingua”)? *** Si u verbi, = lingua ne pa gene ge-uti poli tem pre nu, u-ci nomina posi sio gene ge-u= ti. U ~Glosa~ de Clark veni ex un “Interglossa” de Hogben.

Que “bombus”= e “apis” es u homo ra? *** Mo de u surpris pro mi pa es de detekti un exc= esi de plu sinonima intra Glosa.

Que il es “Britain-lingua”? :) *** Plu p= aleo Brita-pe pa solve mu lingua problema per developo u nu England-lingua= . Plu nu Brita-pe, plus plu hetero grega de humani, nece solve na nu= lingua problema per developo u Munda-lingua.

Is there a way to express l= ong words like “ecologi” and “agrikultura” with words like “to household” = and “kulti”? ***Yes, we could attempt to form compound words for everyth= ing, but some would still be long. Words like “ecology” ~ekologi~ are alr= eady Classically derived, and are full lexemes in their own right.

Pg. 1= 7: Mi amo lekto, musika, plu sporta … Mi prefero “sporta” vice “plu spor= ta”. “plu sporta” es /anglism/, que? (sport-s) *** Sporta L. =3D “play; to = game” ~plu sporta~ =3D “games”.

Mi prefero “quo speci de zoa” alo “quo = zoa speci”, sed ne “quo speci zoa”. Quo-ka “quo speci zoa” es exakti? *** = ~qod speci de zoa~ habe u ma moli este. ~Qo speci zoa~ es tro brevi, e po= si ne eqa exakti Glosa; plu autori-pe pa grafo “18 Steps … “ poli anua p= re nu.

Pagina 19: Lekto “tu pa telefono a quo-pe?” sed “quo-ka tu pa tel= efono an?” Quo-ka “a quo-pe” vice solo “quo-pe” e quo-ka solo “an” vice “a= (d?) an”? ** Running out of steam: this one is too mixed for me: ~quo~ be= came ~qo~ before the 1992 dictionary came out. Agreed ~telephono ad an~ i= s purer Glosa. I would say there is a pure, perfectly syntactically = correct form of Glosa which is *unelided, from which briefer forms can be= derived, and will be spoken.

Quo-ka mu grafo “u-ci avi kanta kali” vice = “u-ci avi kali kanta”? Que mu es u homo ra? *** when I did some Linguistic= research, I discovered that the pure form of Glosa was “Head Final”. Th= is means that the major substantive word in a phrase is last, and the supp= lementary words come before it in increasing order of significance. “beau= tifully sings” is Head Final structure.

Ko plu ami saluta, Thanks in adv= ance for replying, Stephan Schneider

Phew!

Robin Gaskell

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