Re: [glosalist] x and q

Mi Plu Amika,

At 02:51 PM 3/9/04 -0500, Sid Pidd pa grafo:

Plu plura horo poste mi pa unio glosalist, id pa gene indika ke “x” (ks) e “q” (kw) es no logika e ankora mu resta e plu de na lekto-pe no resta. In futuri, mi fu uti plu international phonetics alphabet soni te ankora plu glosa sema. “X” es mo soni - a velar fricative e “q” a pharingal plosive. Te face k” na du klude u dorsa de stoma e po-co subito aperi id. pro “x” u dorsa de stoma du gene proxi ge-klude sed no fini. plu welsh, scot , german e plu hetera pe fu rekogni “ch” e plu spanish “j”. Plu panto vokali fu es brevi e mi fu grafo u nu glosa “q” homo “qu”. sid

Several times since I joined glosalist, it has been pointed out that “x” (ks) and “q” (kw) are illogical and yet they remain and whereas several of our readers do not. In future, I shall use the international phonetics alphabet sounds to match glosa’s signs. “X” is one sound - a velar fricative and “q” a pharyngal plosive. To make k”, we close the back of the mouth and then suddenly open it. For “x” the back of the mouth is nearly closed but not quite. The Welsh, Scots , Germans and others will recognise “ch” and the Spanish “j”. The vowels will all be short and I will write the current glosa “q” as “qu”. *** Mi este ke mi logi Sid tende. Anti-co, mi dice ke, koncerne plu lingua, u pa-histori fu holo-tem vanqi u logika.

   Tem Sid vo kausa u Ge-skema Lingua, Glosa, te habe fo mega logika,  Ron Clark pa volu crea u lingua habe plu verbi; qi flu ex plu paleo lingua  de plu previo tem ... e qi nu-di es ge-loka intra poli Europa lingua.

   Na ci vide u klasika konflikti: ko u minima de plu muta, plu  autori-pe pa tenta uti plu verbi ex Latino e Greko iso mu gene ge-uti intra  plu major lingua de Europa; alterno-co, Sid vo adi plu hetero muta a plu-ci  klasiko verbi, te produce u lingua ko plu logika litera.

   Qe, na vo habe u lingua de rekogni alo de logika?

   Plu origi litera muta; qi pa don u regulari a Glosa, generali tena  plu soni e plu litera de plu klasiko verbi, ex qi plu Glosa verbi pa  veni.  Plu autori-pe pa muta: 'c' --> 'k', 'y' --> 'i', 'qu' --> 'q' e  elimina plu duplo litera; sed mu pa face plu-ci muta prima te kausa  regulari, e sekunda te kausa iso meio muta iso posi pro u soni e un apare  de plu verbi.

   Mu pa komence ko plu klasiko verbi - ne ko plu litera.  So, si mu  komence ko u Latino, "questio xeno communica" mu Glosa forma, ~qestio xeno  komunika~ habe forti simi ko un origi.
   Alterno-co, te traduce id, pro plu raisona de logika, a ' ' kwestio  kseno komunika' ' don a na tetra litera "K" ne bi; plus, id apare es fo  difere ex un origi: solo u soni habe no-muta.

   Mi ne habe akorda ko Sid; qi sembla dice ke logika habe ma signifi  de u pa-histori de lingua.

[English precis: The Glosa authors changed spelling only enough for regularity, while maintaining as much as they could of the original spellings of source-words.]

Saluta,

Robin