Re: [glosalist] Un uti de "ke"

At 10:19 PM 2/7/04 +0100, Marcel grafo:

Mega gratia ad Igor, Manuel e Mar= io de mu interese de Glosa e de mu grama a Glosalist! Bene-veni a vi! ***= U boni puta.

Igor Wasilewski grafo 2004-02-07:

Plus mi doxo; u ve= rba “ke” es u fo interese ra. Mi vide u-ci ra seqe: u verba “ke” habe= fo importa uti-pote, anti-co id probabili ne es mero de proto Glosa. = Si pe lice grafo “ke” in Glosa textu, id es fo boni.

U “ke” es verb= a; qi pa gene klepto ab Esperanto alo Fran=E7ais alo Espa=F1ol. E tu habe= veri: id es paleo Glosa. Wendy Ashby e uno hetero Glosa-pe ne amo id. Se= d Robin Gaskell fo amo id.

Mi auto doxo: pe debi tenta evita id, sed id = ne debi habe falsi. *** Mi kredi il es u loka intra u lingua pro u multi-u= ti introduce verbi.

  Pro mi "ke" dona kompara e plus indika u major-g= raga; qi eqa u  nomina-verbi.

Eng. For me “ke” gives comparison and also= indicates a clause equivalent to a noun.

*** E so, si u “ke” habe gru pr= o plu Espana-pe, plu Francais-pe e plu Esperanto-dice-pe, qod ero habe id?= U koncepa antero u verbi, “ke” nece habe veri.

  Akorda, intra mi u= ti de England lingua mi freqe uti `that.`   Posi mi  uti u-la verbi ma de n= ece, sed id auxi ko mi expresi de plu idea.  Intra bi  Glosa e England-ling= ua, mi este ke u-ci pusi verbi dona mega auxi ko u  klari de mi expresi.  I= ntra mi natio lingua `that` dice a mi audi-pe  de u  seqe major-grega; mi s= imi uti 'ke' intra Glosa.

  Fe dice uno-ra a mi.   .................  =   She tell something to me.

  Fe dice a mi uno-ra.   .................=
She tells me something.

  Fe dice a mi ke u feli pa ki apo.  ...  =  She tells me that the cat  has gone away.

  Ke u feli pa ki apo es fe=  mesage pro mi.
                      ....   That the cat has gone away=  is her message  for me.

Anti-co, kron na volu dice:

“He = was talking so fast, that nobody could understand him”

na vide; c= i un uti de “ke” es poko hetero.

 Mi este es ko un audi-pe.    Si = mi pote dona auxi ad an logi de mi  verbi, mi akti so.

 Tem u lingua h= abe nuli exakti, mi kredi ke u pusi numera de plu verbi  dona facili ad u p= rocesa de u kumunika de semani.  Mi-auto logi ke u-ci  "ke" eqa mo de plu-c= i.

E. While language is not exact, I believe that a small number of words=

ease the process of the communication of meaning. I myself believe that =

this “ke” is one of these.

“An pa du dice ko ta tako; zero-pe pote = logi an”.

Ja, pe logi u-ci frase, anti-co un exakti translati pot= e es poko, poko hetero. Si tu habe simi ko mi, tu fu habe nuli pro= blema ko u seqe versio de u supra frasa.

   "An pa du dice ko ta tako=  ke zero-pe pa pote logi an".

E. He was speaking so fast that no-one = could understand him.

Manuel Valderrama grafo, 2004-02-06:

Ali ma e= xempla:

“An pa dice; an veni u seqe di.” / “An pa dice ke an veni = u seqe di.” E. He said: he comes (on) the next day. / He said that he com= es (on) the next day.

 Plus:-
  An pa dice: an fu veni fu-di.    =  Eng.  He said he will come to-morrow.

 E es nuli ero:-
   An pa d= ice ke an fu veni fu-di.    Eng. He said that he will come  to-morrow.

Pos= i na habe un exempla de u kaso ne de plu regula, sed de qod este korekti.

= Plura persona dice solo akorda plu regula. Plura hetero-pe uti pl= u verbi ka mu dona sati ex un uti. E plu difere persona tenta crea poe= ti per uti plu verbi in no-usuali mode.

Mi kredi ke u kaso pro “ke” es ape= ri. Si plu-pe este ke mu nece habe u verbi id fu tena vita.

Saluta,

Robin= Gaskell