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Re: the use of 'qod'
Kim ("Kim" <kimesperanto@...>) on May 2, 2013
Ave Gary,
Mega gratia de tu reakti. Mi es u mini-verba-lista-pe plus.
= Saluta! Kim
— In glosalist@yahoogroups.com, “Gary” gmillernd@... wrote= :
Kim–
I think you hit it on the head. I had actually never seen= an official explanation of how to use QOD, but there was a time when the G= losa authors experimented with using vocabulary from Interlingua. The Inte= rlingua of Peano (Latino sine Flexione) used QUOD in this manner.
I pr= efer the minimalist approach to International Auxiliary Languages and have = avoided using QOD, since it is not considered “Central Glosa” (marked with = “++” in the Glosa Internet Dictionary). U-LA; QI would be a substitute for= QOD, although I usually say U RA; QI.
Saluta, _ _ /. /\ Gary = #
— In glosalist@yahoogroups.com, “Kim” <kimesperanto@> wrote:
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Ave Glosa-pe!
I am trying to work out exactly what ‘qod’ mean= s, comparing and contrasting it to ‘qi’. It is not used in the “18 Steps” = document. In the online dictionary, it means “what (that which)”. I found= 2 uses among Ashby/Clark documents:
- Plus, id sio evita excesi = specializa per face mo verba akti qod in Plu Palaeo Lingua gene face per = tri alo ma. It would also steer clear of over-specialization by making= one word do what in natural languages is often [done] by three or more. =
(from Paraleli Textu, Wendy Ashby & Ronald Clark, =A9 GEO, 1993)
Here it is the object of the first phrase ‘mo verba akti’, and the= subject of coming verb ‘gene face’. It is sort of a relative pronoun, lik= e ‘qi’, but larger than that.
- “Mi ne es tu, e ne ski; qod tu = ski,” reakti Huitze, … “ “That I, not being you, do not know what y= ou know,” replied Huitze…”
(from Piski Hedo, Wendy Ashby & Ron C= lark, =A9 GEO, 1994)
Here it is the direct object of ‘mi … ne sk= i’, and the direct object of the coming ‘tu ski’.
So to me it seem= s equivalent to ‘u-la; qi’ - that which. Thus we could have the equivalent= rewritings:
1a. Plus, id sio evita excesi specializa per face mo = verba akti u-la; qi in Plu Palaeo Lingua gene face per tri alo ma.
= 2a. “Mi ne es tu, e ne ski u-la; qi tu ski,” reakti Huitze, …” =
Is that how you all understand qod’s meaning? Other thoughts?
= (Note - I realize 2a violates the rule in 18 Steps stating that ‘qi’ shou= ld be omitted in this case. please overlook so we can focus on the main po= int.)
Gratia!! Kim
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