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Re: the use of 'qod'
Gary ("Gary" <gmillernd@...>) on May 1, 2013
Kim–
I think you hit it on the head. I had actually never seen an offici= al explanation of how to use QOD, but there was a time when the Glosa autho= rs experimented with using vocabulary from Interlingua. The Interlingua of= Peano (Latino sine Flexione) used QUOD in this manner.
I prefer the minim= alist approach to International Auxiliary Languages and have avoided using = QOD, since it is not considered “Central Glosa” (marked with “++” in the Gl= osa Internet Dictionary). U-LA; QI would be a substitute for QOD, although= I usually say U RA; QI.
Saluta, _ _ /. /\ Gary #
— In glosalist@yaho= ogroups.com, “Kim” kimesperanto@... wrote:
Ave Glosa-pe!
I am tr= ying to work out exactly what ‘qod’ means, comparing and contrasting it to = ‘qi’. It is not used in the “18 Steps” document. In the online dictionary= , it means “what (that which)”. I found 2 uses among Ashby/Clark documents= :
- Plus, id sio evita excesi specializa per face mo verba akti qod= in Plu Palaeo Lingua gene face per tri alo ma. It would also steer clea= r of over-specialization by making one word do what in natural languages = is often [done] by three or more.
(from Paraleli Textu, Wendy Ashby &= Ronald Clark, =A9 GEO, 1993)
Here it is the object of the first phras= e ‘mo verba akti’, and the subject of coming verb ‘gene face’. It is sort = of a relative pronoun, like ‘qi’, but larger than that.
- “Mi ne es t= u, e ne ski; qod tu ski,” reakti Huitze, … “ “That I, not being you, = do not know what you know,” replied Huitze…”
(from Piski Hedo, Wen= dy Ashby & Ron Clark, =A9 GEO, 1994)
Here it is the direct object of ‘= mi … ne ski’, and the direct object of the coming ‘tu ski’.
So to me= it seems equivalent to ‘u-la; qi’ - that which. Thus we could have the eq= uivalent rewritings:
1a. Plus, id sio evita excesi specializa per face= mo verba akti u-la; qi in Plu Palaeo Lingua gene face per tri alo ma. =
2a. “Mi ne es tu, e ne ski u-la; qi tu ski,” reakti Huitze, …”
= Is that how you all understand qod’s meaning? Other thoughts?
(Note =
- I realize 2a violates the rule in 18 Steps stating that ‘qi’ should be om= itted in this case. please overlook so we can focus on the main point.) =
Gratia!! Kim
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