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RE: [glosalist] Re: Glosa 1000
Ian Niles (Ian Niles <ian_niles@...>) on October 5, 2011
Hi Xavi, From what I’ve seen, the words marked with an “X” are all va= riants of words that are allowed (at least in mega Glosa). As I understand= it, some variants of essentially the same word were included in some Glosa= lists, and other variants of the same word were included in other Glosa li= sts. When the various lists were combined into a single dictionary (viz. t= he GID), obviously one variant had to be selected as the official version o= f the word and the others had to be deprecated. I think you would agree th= at having more than one variant of the same word for many words in a langua= ge that is proposed as an international auxiliary language defeats the purp= ose of having an international auxiliary language. Another point tha= t should be made, I think, is that there shouldn’t be anything sacrosanct a= bout the first version of an artificial language. In fact, I think the opp= osite is true. Artificial languages get tested in practice, just like soft= ware and any other engineering aritifact. The parts that work well are ret= ained. The parts that don’t work well or don’t work at all should be rejec= ted or modified. As Jespersen pointed out, in the end an international aux= iliary language rests solely on science and reason. -Ian To: glosalist@yah= oogroups.com From: xabadiar@… Date: Wed, 5 Oct 2011 15:29:18 +0000 = Subject: [glosalist] Re: Glosa 1000
= Ave, karo Myalee,
It seems obvious to me that no-one shoul= d change the original Glosa words in favour of substitutes supposedly bette= r. I wonder why they had to substitute “ami” against “amika”, “apis” agains= t “api”, etc. But my dear friend, they actually CAN do it, they have ALREAD= Y done it, by giving an “X” mark to many words that “should be avoided”, ev= en to essential words from any “Glosa-1000 list”. (GID, page 4). In my opin= ion, the GID might be re-organized: the “Glosa Centra” list should be the o= nly place where the X-marked words might be excluded. And the “Glosa Mega” = list should be the integral list with both the original words and the recen= t and preferred words. No need to mark words that “should be avoided”. The = words outside the “Glosa Centra” list would be avoided “de facto”; the word= s inside the “Glosa Centra” would be preferred “de facto”.
Finally, an “= English-Glosa Centra” list is in my opinion far more necessary than an “Eng= lish-Glosa Mega” list.
— In firstname.lastname@example.org= , “myaleee n” <myaleee@> wrote:
ave karo Abadia!
1- glosa is very great and unique
2- but wendy and Ron incomple= tely made diction.: latin and greek words for each word!!
3- NO-ONE c= an change x-sign word or other defects!
4- my opinion: use gid(big), = nobody will blame you, but in beginning
- of article tell strange words =
- bato=3D deep etc
5- esperanto, ido, lfn , glosa all have defects un= changeable!!!We must tolerate them or leave the language :-(
6- I ma= de excellent version of glosa> glisa, using only latin words, removing defe= cts and I gladly welcome suggestions.
— In = email@example.com, “Xavier Abadia” <xabadiar@> wrote:
= Ave, Gary Miller e pan-pe.
Vi ski; u diktionaria “GID” habe u signi= “X” pro plu verba qi “debi gene evita” (“should be avoided”, p. 4). Speci:= amika, api, asini, et cetera.
Mi amo Interglossa, so mi prefere plu= Glosa verba qi es homo plu Interglosa verba, so: amika, api, asini, vice: = ami, apis, asinus.
Qo-ka plu-ci verba “debi gene evita”? GID no expl= ika id…
U-ci qestio es speciali dificile, ka plu verba freqe habe = u signi “1” e u signi “X” iso-tem! (Plu verba ko signi “1” apare in uno ex = oligo Glosa-1000-lista).
Qo-pe pa decide; plu-ci verba debi gene evi= ta? Qo-ka? Qe Ronald Clark e Wendy Ashby pa akorda?
Mi es ge-konfusi= de GID.
— In glosalist@yahoo= groups.com, Gary Miller <gmillernd@> wrote:
Plu verba ko mikro numera 1 in GID pa es origi “Glosa 1000.” = Plu
Glosa krea-pe, cefa nu Wendy Ashby, du face ma sistema u-ci ve= rba-fa;
seqe-co nu es u neo nomina “Centra Glosa” e u sema ++. U = turba pa es;
Glosa 1000 pa faktu habe ma poli de 1000 verba, cefa = kausa plu itera
de Latino e Helena verba in id; anti-co id veri ne= ce u ma boni
sistema. “Centra Glosa” nu habe proxi 1300 verba– f= aktu, u ma mikro
qantita de origi Glosa 1000. (Un homi-face lingu= a Lojban plus habe
proxi 1300 verba.)
U bibli 1= 8 GRADU AD EURO-GLOSA dice; “Na itera nece sti importa; Glosa
1000= facili pote ergo de ali speci de tema, klude plu forti tekno
tema= , posi ko no-freqe uti de Mega Glosa.” Mi pa detekti sura veri
u-= ci frase, tem uti Centra Glosa.
Plus mi pa gene hedo de = tu pedi-bola kanta. Anti-co in Nord Dakota na
universita sporta g= rega es “plu Bisona.”
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