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Re: [glosalist] Re: Lojban

chris duncan (chris duncan <krisdunncan@...>) on November 24, 2010

if you get some time off from the others try and visit a book shop and see=

what books you can buy which are not available to you at home or failing t= hat get the reception desk at the courtland hotel to let you read the new = york times, washington post, or the herald tribune, you might learn somethi= ng interesting about how america veiws On 22 November 2010 03:37, Zhenyu <= lizhenyu_god@…> wrote:

Thanks Duncan! I couldn’t hear it= in my hotel and have to do clearly when I’m back to Beijing. I’m now in = Courtyard Hotel of New York, which is far from the center of NY. tomorrow= we are to visit some New York’s famous places. The day after tomorrow we= are to go back to Beijing by air, transit airport will be Narita Airport= in the evening perhaps. Saluta! Li Zhenyu

— In glosalist@yahoogr= <>, chris duncan <krisdunncan@…> wr= ote:

yes zhenyou ! what do you think??? saluta

On 21 Novemb= er 2010 02:38, Zhenyu <lizhenyu_god@…> wrote:

Dear = Duncan, Seems we are on line in the same moment! I got that video = 22570A6273B65&index=3D1

Is it that? Gratia~!

= Li Zhenyu

— In <glosalist%40yahoogr=><glosalist%>, chris duncan <krisdunncan@= wrote:

dear zhenyu li , most american towns have = internet cafes where you can log on to the internet for a few= dollars: there is bound to be one near whatever hotel you are st= aying in now, type in google on the web browser (firefox is the best ) = it is the same search engine available in china but without the = censorship and then type in UTUBE it is a video web site, anybody = in that cafe will help you find it, all westerners know about UTU= BE when the UTUBE site comes up type in GLOSA you will then see a n= umber of video clipps where a black american guy called arpee tal= ks about and sings in glosa. why is this important? a= ll conlangs up to now have been monopolised by people of european= origins on this glosalist there is now an iraqui myalee an a= merican gary a chinese yourself and if we can recruit arpee that will = make glosa truly interacial. best wishes chris

= On 20 November 2010 04:42, Zhenyu <lizhenyu_god@> wrote:


Dear Duncan, I’ve not got a U tube. What’s t= hat? Tell me please! Gratia! Saluta! Li Zhenyu =

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40yahoogroups.= com>, chris

duncan <krisdunncan@> wrote:

= Karo Zhenyu Good luck with your trip to the USA,Why don’t= you plan to visit Ken Caviness the famous conlange= r who teaches in a university there ,you will find him on=

his website.Do you have acsess to U tube where you are?

saluta On 18 November 2010 05:16, Zhenyu <lizhenyu_god@> = wrote:

Karo xShadowSo= ulx, Thank you for your reply on Lojban! I’m glad to know you= here! Many times, I had the same feeling like yo= urs on Glosa. Lojban’s phonology is quite odd = for its sourcing is different, which is for pure neutralization on = its basic words, by combining parts of other two= original language’s words among the 6 main= languages in the world. As for its grammar, it is quite over-acc= urate so that humans aren’t accustomed to it. I’ve got the se= nse earlier that few men would feel it comf= ortable. But, I think, its existence is necessary. My = learning Lojban doesn’t mean I put Glosa in the second place in my = heart. My love to Glosa is still! I don’t know if you = can read Glosa, so I use English to reply y= ou. I hope you can. Saluta! Li Zhenyu =

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= “xShadowSoulx” <shadowxsoul@> wrote:

= i have personnaly studied lojban, and i find it to be a very bad = choice for an auxlang, mostly because of its grammar. i= also never like the phonology since it allows alot o= f bizarre consonant clusters.

it is astound= ingly alien and takes up way too much memory to learn. ther= e is no language on this planet that relies solely on word or= der like lojban does to differentiate gramatical = case. the only cases where you see this, this is = only used for the nominative and maybe the direct object (as in = english).

however, there is some= thing similar you can do that can infact work, it = was something i toyed with while working on my own auxlang. it is = a concept called ‘coverbs’ that do exist in alot of= languages. let me give an example:

= let’s say we had two sentences:

i am g= oing to my home and

i am go= ing from the store

in a language that used = coverbs, there would be no prepostion here. instead eac= h would use a seperate verb. so these sentences would look = something like:

i go-to home

i go-from store

here’s the interest= ing part: if we wanted to say the sentence “I am going = to my home from the store”, we simple combine the two sentences=


like so:

= i go-to home go-from store.

i believe chine= se does this, so maybe the chinese guy where-ever he is = could detail it more.


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