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Re: [glosalist] Re: Lojban

chris duncan (chris duncan <krisdunncan@...>) on November 21, 2010

dear zhenyu li , most american towns have internet cafes where you can log = on to the internet for a few dollars: there is bound to be one near whatev= er hotel you are staying in now, type in google on the web browser (firefox= is the best ) it is the same search engine available in china but withou= t the censorship and then type in UTUBE it is a video web site, anybody in = that cafe will help you find it, all westerners know about UTUBE when the U= TUBE site comes up type in GLOSA you will then see a number of video clipps= where a black american guy called arpee talks about and sings in glosa. wh= y is this important? all conlangs up to now have been monopolised by people= of european origins on this glosalist there is now an iraqui myalee an ame= rican gary a chinese yourself and if we can recruit arpee that will make gl= osa truly interacial. best wishes chris

On 20 November 2010 04:42, Zhenyu = <lizhenyu_god@…> wrote:

Dear Duncan, I’ve not got a U tu= be. What’s that? Tell me please! Gratia! Saluta! Li Zhenyu

— In= <>, chris duncan <k= risdunncan@…> wrote:

Karo Zhenyu Good luck with your trip to = the USA,Why don’t you plan to visit Ken Caviness the famous conlanger= who teaches in a university there ,you will find him on his website.= Do you have acsess to U tube where you are? saluta On 18 November 2= 010 05:16, Zhenyu <lizhenyu_god@…> wrote:

Karo xSha= dowSoulx, Thank you for your reply on Lojban! I’m glad to know you he= re! Many times, I had the same feeling like yours on Glosa. Lojban’= s phonology is quite odd for its sourcing is different, which is fo= r pure neutralization on its basic words, by combining parts of oth= er two original language’s words among the 6 main languages in the = world. As for its grammar, it is quite over-accurate so that humans= aren’t accustomed to it. I’ve got the sense earlier that few men w= ould feel it comfortable. But, I think, its existence is necessary. My = learning Lojban doesn’t mean I put Glosa in the second place in my he= art. My love to Glosa is still! I don’t know if you can read Glosa, s= o I use English to reply you. I hope you can. Saluta! L= i Zhenyu

— In <glosalist%40ya=><glosalist%>,

“xShadowSoulx” <sha= dowxsoul@> wrote:

i have personnaly studied lojban, and i f= ind it to be a very bad choice for an auxlang, mostly because of it= s grammar. i also never like the phonology since it allows alot of bi= zarre consonant clusters.

it is astoundingly alien and take= s up way too much memory to learn. there is no language on this pla= net that relies solely on word order like lojban does to differenti= ate gramatical case. the only cases where you see this, this is onl= y used for the nominative and maybe the direct object (as in english)= .

however, there is something similar you can do that can i= nfact work, it was something i toyed with while working on my own a= uxlang. it is a concept called ‘coverbs’ that do exist in alot of l= anguages. let me give an example:

let’s say we had two se= ntences:

i am going to my home and

= i am going from the store

in a language that used coverbs, = there would be no prepostion here. instead each would use a seperate = verb. so these sentences would look something like:

i= go-to home i go-from store

here’s the interesting = part: if we wanted to say the sentence “I am going to my home from = the store”, we simple combine the two sentences together like so: =

i go-to home go-from store.

i believe chines= e does this, so maybe the chinese guy where-ever he is could detail= it more.

– C. D .

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C. D .

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