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Mondlango is no hoax!
andoromeda83 ("andoromeda83" <andoromeda83@...>) on November 27, 2008
I am a member of the Mondlango Yahoo Group since some time= . I don’t think that it is a hoax. The name He Yafu is maybe a joke or pseu= donym, the real creator of Mondlango seems to be the guy “Li Yongxiu” from = the Yahoo group.
Mondlango has certainly nearly not many followers. There = was at least some activity in the chinese forum of Mondlango. To proof that= it is hoax you must be able to read this, I am not. But you have to keep i= n mind that people from China have restrictions regarding the internet. So = not everybody can maybe active in Yahoo Groups etc. So it is hard to say if= there are followers at all.
In the lingistic sense Mondlango is no big ap= provement of Esperanto, it still uses the “table-words” like kiu, kio, kie = and the building of Antonyms of Adjectives (malgranda for small), it only c= hanges mal- with another prefix. These items are since the days of Ido (190= 7) erased from every Esperanto based language. Mondlango then uses more Eng= lish words instead of latin bases words. This is because the language was d= eveloped in China and the knowledge of Latin is a bit limited. If it is no = hoax then the most interesting thing in Mondlango is that it is developed i= n China and not in Europe or North America like nearly all other auxiliary = languages.
If it is an elaborated hoax then some invested really a lot of = work in it for a long time. There is too much work inside it to be a kind o= f joke. So I think Mondlango is no hoax, but on the other hand nothing real= ly new or spectacular.
— In glosalist@yahoogroup= s.com, “shearzar” <ken.scherer@…> wrote:
It is easy for me to mix gra= mmars. One person’s vowel is another’s consonant. The Ceqli conlang cons= iders L, M, N, Q, and R to be vowels! No wonder I get confused. :-)
= If Mondlango is another Esperanto Adjuvilo, I’m not upset. That would= be a great prank. My posts about that are based on my hypothesis that “= He Yafu”, the name of the founder of Mondlango, is an Esperanto pun for = “Hey, you fool” (or, “Ha! You fool!”?).
Even if I’m wrong about Mondl= ango being an elaborate hoax, its use of diphthongs muddies the goal of = one symbol one sound. I submit that the listener would not easily determ= ine how to properly spell a word with a diphtong in it. But, what ever, = I don’t care, Glosa words are easier to pronounce.
I want it to b= e all Greek (and Latin) to me. :-) Glosa is my friend.
Happy Thanksgi= ving. I have to go play nice with the in-laws. :-)
— In glosa= email@example.com, “Llu=C3=ADs Batlle” <viriketo@> wrote:
In esp= eranto, the name “vokaloj” (vowels) mean those symbols in the set “a,e,= i,o,u”. Although “j,=C5=AD” (w,y in your mondlango) have a vowel-like s= ound for “i” and “u”, they aren’t counted in the set named “vokaloj”= .
Don’t mix grammars. :)
Nevertheless, if you are worried= with things like those, I guess you will find only deception in the wo= rld of conlangs. Sooner or later.
2008/11/27, shearzar <ken.schere= r@>:
I am still waiting on my 18 steps Glos book. It’s on back order.=
Something funny to share: Out of curiosity, I checked out M= ondlango, a revision of Esperanto.
A few Esperanto articl= es (one of which calls Mondlango an “antecesor del globish”), caus= ed me to think Mondlango is an Adjuvilo-like Esperanto joke. I = spent hours looking in vain for info about He Yafu. Surely, the creat= or of a language that purportedly has tens of thousands of speakers s= ince its creation in 2002 would have his picture Online. Is He Yaf= u an Esperanto pun for “Hey, you fool”?
On mondlango.com, FAQ #= 20 says, “Mondlango has realized the dream of ‘one symbol one sound’ = both theoretically and practically.” Yet, we find on the Alphabet = page the comment, “semivowels: w y. Semivowels can be combined with v= owels to form diphthongs, such as ay [ai], ey[ei], oy[oi], aw[au],= ow[ou].”
Websters New World College Dictionary 4th Edition say= s a diphthong is, “a complex vowel sound made by gliding continuously= from the position for one vowel to that for another within the same =
as (ou) in down.”
Page two of the Alphabet o= n mondlango.com says, “The number of syllables in a word is given by = the number of vowels.”
Before we even get to Online lesson one,= we see that Mondlango comments about one symbol one sound, diphthong= s, and one vowel per syllable are contradictory!
I still = haven’t found an auxlang that I like better than Glosa!! :-)
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