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Re: [glosalist] Tense and number and other things

David Porter ("David Porter" <daveyporter@...>) on October 16, 2017

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Hi 3zja Just to acknowledge your email - I have an interest in Glosa but am= not knowledgeable when it comes to the grammatics so cannot answer your qu= ery - hopefully someone will. I think that the language is on the back bu= rner and has been since Ron Clark and then Wendy Ashby passed away. From = earlier Glosa material Ron and Wendy wrote that the context was similar to = Chinese, maybe therein is a clue. Regards Davidjp

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From: 3zja@… [glosalist] To: glosalist@yahoogroup= s.com Sent: Monday, October 16, 2017 7:48 PM Subject: [glosalist] Tens= e and number and other things

Hi Glosalist!

Lately I’ve started= to read about Glosa, and I have some questions. I have an interest in lang= uages, especially auxlangs, on a hobby level. One feature (or rather lack o= f feature) that I’ve come to like in languages that I’ve come to like is no= t mandatory tense and number. European languages often (always?) mark tense= /time and number (singular or plural), “mandatore-ly”, but in some language= s that is only described if it is of interest, or is needed for clarity.

= This makes me wonder:

1) How mandatory is marking tense and number in G= losa? 2) Would Glosa work, in theory, without marking tense/number?

As= I’ve understood it, marking number is semi-mandatory: u/un/plu is not need= ed if the sentence is still clear without it. I suppose one catch is that..= u/un/plu is used to make the phrase clearer, to show what is a noun and wh= at is a verb.. am I right in presuming that it fills such a role?

Would = sentences like:

be normal Glosa?

In Pandunia, another simple = auxlang in development, the end of the subject/the beginning of the verb ph= rase is instead marked by a word (while the noun is marked instead in Glosa= ).. I suppose then that.. the phrase-start “mi grafo …” could already mea= n both “I write” and “my writing”, right? (Thinking about the limits in reg= ards to comprehensibility and how much difference the u/un/plu makes..).

= (Btw, how active is the Facebook group?)

Ami saluta, 3zja

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Just to= acknowledge your email - I have an interest in Glosa but am not knowledge= able when it comes to the grammatics so cannot answer your query - hopeful= ly someone will.   I think that the language is on the back burn= er and has been since Ron Clark and then Wendy Ashby passed away. &nb= sp; From earlier Glosa material Ron and Wendy wrote that the context was s= imilar to Chinese, maybe therein is a clue.   Regards Davidjp</F= ONT></DIV>
 
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Hi Glosalis= t!

Lately I've started to read about Glosa, and I have some quest= ions. I have an interest in languages, especially auxlangs, on a hobby l= evel. One feature (or rather lack of feature) that I've come to like in = languages that I've come to like is not mandatory tense and number. Europea= n languages often (always?) mark tense/time and number (singular or plur= al), "mandatore-ly", but in some languages that is only described if it = is of interest, or is needed for clarity.

This makes me wonder:<B= R>
1) How mandatory is marking tense and number in Glosa?
2) Would= Glosa work, in theory, without marking tense/number?

As I've und= erstood it, marking number is semi-mandatory: u/un/plu is not needed if = the sentence is still clear without it. I suppose one catch is that.. u/= un/plu is used to make the phrase clearer, to show what is a noun and wh= at is a verb.. am I right in presuming that it fills such a role?
<BR= >Would sentences like:
* mi pa lekto bibli, e logi [that]..
* pa-d= i, mi lekto bibli, e logi [that]..

be normal Glosa?

In Pa= ndunia, another simple auxlang in development, the end of the subject/th= e beginning of the verb phrase is instead marked by a word (while the no= un is marked instead in Glosa).. I suppose then that.. the phrase-start = "mi grafo ..." could already mean both "I write" and "my writing", right= ? (Thinking about the limits in regards to comprehensibility and how muc= h difference the u/un/plu makes..).

(Btw, how active is the Faceb= ook group?)

Ami saluta,
3zja

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