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Re: Plu verba fini

Xavier Abadia ("Xavier Abadia" <xabadiar@...>) on March 26, 2012

Dear Gary, it’s natural that this discussion is happening on and on. People= may get astonished at the dictionary (as I did) when they find many transl= ations for a certain word, some just differing on the final vowel! This way= the morphology of the language may look chaotic. Of course this may be due= to the early Glosa textbooks. Anyway, the problem remains.

In my viewpoin= t there are three options:

  1. Since the final vowel is not important, and = it is only there to ease pronunciation, so let’s give a certain final vowel= to all words. -E is the characteristic vowel of the main Latin declension = (the 3rd) and it is the characteristic ending of verbs, at their infinitive= -re. I am really testing this -E option with a reformed Latino Sine Flexio= ne.

  2. To try a systematic morphology plan, like Hogben’s (verboids in -E,= nouns in -A or -I, modifiers in -O). Hogben’s plan is not optimal, it has = many exceptions ( -landscape.E2.80.9D). Peano’s plan was not optimal too. Again, the plan Ste= phan is suggesting seems not optimal to me.

  3. The option followed by the = GID, an hybrid of the previous two. Even knowing that final vowels are not = important, they keep a huge amount of words with differing final vowels, so= me from the early Glosa textbooks, some from the late Glosa textbooks, and = they let them all enter the GID dictionary with no discrimination. This is = a poor option in my opinion.

The question is, did the Glosa authors really= improve the morphology plan of Hogben? I think it is the responsibility of= Mrs Wendy Ashby to answer yes, no, or whatever. If no, let’s go back to Ho= gben’s. If yes, let’s chose one Glosa textbook as the official introduction= to the lexicon and grammar.


— In,= Gary Miller <gmillernd@…> wrote:


The discussion about t= he final vowel on Glosa words has happened many times. \ / (+) U diskus= i de u fini vokali de plu Glosa verba pa gene acide poli kron.

The ear= ly Glosa textbooks had many variations; for example: \ / (+) Plu proto = Glosa sko bibli pa habe poli difere. Exempla:

alelo/aleli diala/dial= i koragio/koragi negotia/negoti nexi/nexu sugo/suge talo/tali

= Of course, people asked what the right spellings were. \ / (+) Sura, = plu lekto-pe dice u qestio; plu korekti grafo es qo.

The response was = the final vowel is not important, and it is only there to ease pronunciat= ion. \ / (+) U reakti pa es; u fini vokali ne es importa, plus id es la= simpli de sti ma facili dice soni.

Hogben in INTERGLOSSA also did n= ot try to keep the classical conjugation/declension endings. \ / (+) = Plus Hogben per INTERGLOSSA ne tenta tena plu paleo Latino/Helena ankti-v= erba/nomina-verba verba fini.

His plan was verboids end in -E, nouns i= n -A or -I, modifiers in -O. \ / (+) An skema es; plu akti verba (verbo= ids) habe u fini -E, nomina verba -A alo -I, plu deskribe verba -O.

= He also listed many exceptions and said there is to be no difference betw= een verbs, nouns, and modifiers. \ / (+) An plus lista poli excepti, e = dice; debi es zero difere inter plu akti, nomina e deskribe verba.

I= love Latin, and find endings such as Stephan proposes to be beautiful. = / (+) Mi este filo de Latino (u fo-paleo Roma lingua), e detekti plu t= ali verba fini; homo Stephan pre deklara, es veri kali.

I also find th= at as I get older, I CAN’T REMEMBER ANY OF THEM ANYWAY! \ / (+) Mi plus= detekti, tem mi gene es ma paleo; MI NE POTE MEMO PANTO MU!

I simply = prefer what is the easiest. \ / (+) Mi simpli ma amo plu ra; qi es maxi= facili.

Saluta, _ _ /. /\ =A0 Gary #

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